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12valvecory 04-23-2010 10:18 PM

60lb exhaust springs
 
I just installed my 4gsk and i got the springs to go with but the diesel mechanic i know said you dont need these springs unless you are makin 70 or up lbs of boost. Do the springs make any extra power. do i really need these im not pulling with it.

FastCR 04-23-2010 10:35 PM

The reason you need them is because the valves will not close fast enough with the stock springs above ~3200 rpm and you might hit a valve on the piston.
Some people don't do them and just keep a close eye on the tach, but i'd do them IMO. You really should to both intake and exhaust too.

12vcummins96 04-23-2010 10:36 PM

yes if you plan on spinnin that motor over 3200 rpms anything over that you run the risk of floating a valve

daveO 04-24-2010 10:05 AM

I would def. do both intake and exhaust. Normally, the reason people only do the exhaust isn't for the 4k gsk, but because they are req'd for exhaust brakes.

94 12valve 04-24-2010 05:06 PM

I vote put them in good insurence and you already have them

seandonato73 04-24-2010 10:26 PM

does anyone make anything heavier then a 60lb spring?

FastCR 04-25-2010 12:55 AM

Hamilton i think makes some heavy ones. they are $$$ though.

94 12valve 04-26-2010 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by FastCR (Post 544965)
Hamilton i think makes some heavy ones. they are $$$ though.

They do make some great springs and retainers for these 12v's. compare them to a set of 60lbs springs with titamium retainers and keeps and the price is very close.

glfredrick 04-26-2010 10:15 AM

With valve springs, there is a trade-off in pounds of seat pressure versus cam wear. Run the lightest springs that will get the job done. Running heavier wears the cam faster and sucks up more hp.

About the only reason I can think of to run heavier than 60# springs (which are mainly taller factory offerings that have more closed seat pressure) is to really turn up the RPM, but doing so will also mean that you need a lot of other high $$$ mods, starting with a crank dampener and moving up from there, as about 4000 RPM is the limit on the stock lower end before it starts making all sorts of weird harmonics.

seandonato73 04-26-2010 04:42 PM

i asked because i will be running 4k, for now...till i get my pump redone, within the next month my bottom end will be studded and girdled. a fluid damper is on it's way. i work t an industrial diesel machine shop, so i have the benefit of not having to pay for machine work, or having the rotating assy. balanced. i was just wondering if it would be good to go for a heavier valve spring straight off rather then spend the money on the 60lb and then upgrade to a heavier spring

glfredrick 04-26-2010 10:10 PM

Sounds like you know what you are getting yourself into... Never quite know when someone asks on these boards. They could be 16 and trying to hot-rod daddy's diesel! :yeah:

94 12valve 04-27-2010 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by seandonato73 (Post 545805)
i asked because i will be running 4k, for now...till i get my pump redone, within the next month my bottom end will be studded and girdled. a fluid damper is on it's way. i work t an industrial diesel machine shop, so i have the benefit of not having to pay for machine work, or having the rotating assy. balanced. i was just wondering if it would be good to go for a heavier valve spring straight off rather then spend the money on the 60lb and then upgrade to a heavier spring

what are you gonna do with this truck? you prob will not need a girdle or bottom end studs unless your trying to make big power ( 700+). Same goes for the rotating and balance, now if you don't mind having the truck down and its free than go for it. but it is not needed

seandonato73 04-29-2010 09:25 PM

800hp for now, 1200hp some time down the road..... the truck is a project i am doing a 79 ford super cab 5.9l cummins etc, it's my dream truck and i finally have everything i need to get it done. so as far as the truck being down it's still in the process of being made, so i have a lot of time to get the engine right before it goes in the truck

94 12valve 04-29-2010 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by seandonato73 (Post 548390)
800hp for now, 1200hp some time down the road..... the truck is a project i am doing a 79 ford super cab 5.9l cummins etc, it's my dream truck and i finally have everything i need to get it done. so as far as the truck being down it's still in the process of being made, so i have a lot of time to get the engine right before it goes in the truck

:tu: got ya sounds like its gonna be a sweet truck

seandonato73 05-05-2010 09:22 PM

i hope so it's killen my bank account lol but it should be worth it

94 12valve 05-05-2010 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by seandonato73 (Post 551872)
i hope so it's killen my bank account lol but it should be worth it

lol better get used to the low bank acccount thing lol I don't even wanna know how much I have spent in parts for my 94

seandonato73 05-08-2010 01:06 AM

yeah it doesn't take much to sink a ton of money into one of these.....:w2:


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