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94cummins12v 02-15-2009 07:19 PM

cam question
 
how many people are running 60lb valve springs with a stock camshaft?

MotorOilMcCall 02-15-2009 08:09 PM

My 98 is, why?

Cummins97 02-15-2009 08:21 PM

I know of 4 right off the top of my head in my town running stock cam and 60lb springs.

MotorOilMcCall 02-15-2009 08:30 PM

Yeah... I don't understand what the problem would be?

Red_Rattler 02-15-2009 09:08 PM

Maybe added wear to the lobes from the higher pressure? :humm:

ykdave 02-15-2009 10:03 PM

anyone thats running a 4kgsk or higher!

Nothing at all wrong with running them on a stock cam, but pointless to use them unless your going to start spinning the engine much over 3000rpm

94cummins12v 02-16-2009 12:05 AM

you need the springs for exhaust breaks, the reason im asking is becasue when we pulled the cam the intake lobes were excesivly worn enouph that they were pitted. im buying a new cam but i was wondering if a stock cam can handle the stress of 60lb springs

MotorOilMcCall 02-16-2009 10:00 AM

Plenty of trucks do. Any truck with an exhaust brake uses them, and any trucks spinning over 3200 rpm are supposed to as well. Thats a lot of trucks. You'll be fine.

94cummins12v 02-16-2009 10:37 AM

ok i was just wondering because all the aftermarket cams say they are rated for 60lb springs so i didnt know if thats why mine is worn so bad or if it is just the 300,000 miles taking its toll

oglejust 02-16-2009 12:39 PM

y not go w/ a better cam? hows the engine comin along anyway?

Red_Rattler 02-16-2009 07:31 PM

Man I'm good... :tttt:

toy4xchris 02-16-2009 08:39 PM

if your getting a new cam get a schied street performer itll bring down egts and give some more power well worth the money and not too expensive iirc

94cummins12v 02-16-2009 08:40 PM

the engine is coming alot just waiting for cam ideas. the reason im not to thrilled about a upgraded cam is because of the price ive already spent way more on this than i have in my account

Beets 02-16-2009 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by 94cummins12v (Post 289272)
the engine is coming alot just waiting for cam ideas. the reason im not to thrilled about a upgraded cam is because of the price ive already spent way more on this than i have in my account

yea that is typical with about every project... sucks

toy4xchris 02-16-2009 09:05 PM

yea I know how the running outa money thing works I do it all the time lol but one thing that was nice bout the schied street performer is that its only a regrind so its not as bad

94cummins12v 02-16-2009 09:14 PM

i wouldnt put a regrind in my truck if my life depended on it, thats like running anything but synthetic in my truck, i just ended up buying a stock replacement cam for it since it has as much power as i want

12valvetater 02-17-2009 07:52 PM

If you would have got a different cam for it would that mean you have to have cut pistons to clear the valves then?

94cummins12v 02-17-2009 11:41 PM

not that i know of ive never herd of it

bubba_pa 02-18-2009 02:06 PM

I thought that any truck with a manual tranny already had the 60 lb springs so a jake brake could be added. Seems some after market springs go higher yet. Just my thoughts.

Paul

94 12valve 02-18-2009 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by 94cummins12v (Post 289289)
i wouldnt put a regrind in my truck if my life depended on it, thats like running anything but synthetic in my truck, i just ended up buying a stock replacement cam for it since it has as much power as i want

are you going to replace your lifters?


Originally Posted by 12valvetater (Post 289827)
If you would have got a different cam for it would that mean you have to have cut pistons to clear the valves then?


Not all aftermarket cams require fly cut pistons ... it just depends on how big you really want to go:c:

Cummins97 02-18-2009 03:16 PM

Not trying to steal his thread, but yes he got new lifters to go with the new cam. At least that's what he told me. :up:

94 12valve 02-18-2009 04:36 PM

good next question ... HD pushrods? while your there, might as well much better than bending one

94cummins12v 02-18-2009 10:47 PM

nope hd push rods aint worth the money becasue they will still bend, stock ones will do just fine

94 12valve 02-19-2009 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by 94cummins12v (Post 290585)
nope hd push rods aint worth the money becasue they will still bend, stock ones will do just fine

I disagree with that ... but it is your truck so do what you want

94cummins12v 02-19-2009 10:22 AM

i will do what i want, ive had multiple guys tell me that its a waste of money because they can still bend 3 months ago when i bent my push rods putting my new head on. if the supplyers say there a waste of money then thats a good enouph awnser for me

94 12valve 02-19-2009 11:00 AM

who's pushrods did you bend?

Cummins97 02-19-2009 07:15 PM

hmmm... my cam gear broke and almost all the valves hit the pistons and the stock rods were still straight.... Guess I just got lucky.

94cummins12v 02-19-2009 07:55 PM

i bent the stock pushrod because it wasnt in the lifter completly in novermber when i replaced my head, when the owner of a diesel performance shop tells me that a hd pushrod is just as easy to bend as a stock pushrod im convinced it aint worth a dime

94 12valve 02-20-2009 03:25 PM

interesting, when I do my cam swap I'm still upgradeing my pushrods

94cummins12v 02-22-2009 12:08 AM

go for it but im saving the money for something bigger and better


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