Question about lope.
 

I was brousing the web the other day and found an article about either bigger valve springs, or gov. springs. I don't remember which,and can't seem to find it again, but the article suggested that if the springs are upgraded to radicaly without enough fuel increase that it would create a lope like a gasser with a cam. Any thoughts on this?:humm:

alot of that has to do with timing, governor springs wont really do anything for lope...

24 valves lope with a monster pump. I have heard some 12 valves do it I think its due to timing and gov spring settings.

you might get a little bit out of em with gov. springs but you would have to run atleast 5k RPM springs and ya have to be careful with those...:pca1:

you can make it lope with the gov springs, they have to be mis-adjusted, ie one being a good bit tighter than the other...... and set the idle fairly low..... not good on the motor though

they lope is kinda cool, my friend has a 7.3pstroke w/ a chip and he can retard the pump so it lopes, i dont think id want to do it tho, makes ppl think it runs rough lol

Thanks guys! I don't think I'm gonna try it now.. Don't wanna risk damage to the motor.

Let’s see here ill make a pros and cons of both

5k gsk pros lope and it will RUN! cons kaboom, runaways past 3200 with a stock engine....:se:
offset weights pros lope cons hard on pump and motor it will also have performance affects i assume.

I know you can also get a lope if your idle is to low. Pros lope and not very loud cons truck dies when cold and if it’s low enough you oil pressure light will come on and then off then on then off accompanied with a chime....:argh:

Honestly guys as cool as it sounds it’s not worth it to me because I know a lot of people would walk up to me saying what’s wrong with it?:booo:

Bigger lines will cause it on a 24v. There's a video on youtube somewhere of a guy with one. Sound like a$$ to me, but hey, to each his own.

i got some lope in mine but im running oversized valves, 18.5* timing, 4k GSK and everything else after i get my oversized fuel lines ill be set

Along with the gov springs and timing, oversized injection lines and massive DV's also contribute. Some say the monster pump doesnt lope as bad as it did but I can't comment on that one..:c:

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Ok...
I am lost here...
WHY would you want to even think of driving a mechanical pump with a "lope" in it on the street?.It has zero performance advantage and usually shows a lack of tuning more than power.The absolute strongest running 12v around as a daily driver is the DTR's John_P's Red Rocket.At over 800hp on fuel alone and over 900 with a small shot of giggle gas I dare you to find one stronger and yet when you stand right next to it the truck is a docile as a stocker until he mashes the loud pedal.

So you can have your lope,I'll take docile,quiet,sneaky and overpowered before lopey idles and no power gains for it anyday........Andy

P.S.-Can someone please expalin what "oversize" valves have to do with idle quality?

tell ya what ther "hammer" how bout ill race you with my loping cummins then we will see whos laphing:pca1:

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that things sounds sweeter than hell:choochoo:

Yeah VP44 trucks are easier to get to lope with just some bigger lines and pump adjusts. but you really don't need a lope your start tweaking things and your going to get a motor running wrong and then kaboom. Leaves the lopes to all the Duramax boys they run around with them all the time. But really nothing lurking underneath. Kinda Ricerish to me I think.

Son...
An Old Man once taught me along time ago a saying thats fits for you here....

"Never write a check that your azz will not be able to cash"

Couple things you need to do first to ensure you even get a "chance" to "laph" at me...

First...
Make sure your job provides you with enough overtime to ensure you have enough Benjamins to cover your check with as I know I do.

Second...
Understand that this old man HAS been around the block and raced guys way better than you and knows how to handle those like you who puff out their chests and beat them like Magilla Gorilla who just found a bunch of bananas.See you do not know me and probably do not know or realize that if the cash is right a two day ride is no problem.

So Magilla,in closing,and since your thumping your chest about how bad your "loping" truck is I ask this......

Do you feel you have enough power in your loping truck to drive around my very under-powered stock 12v?...AND.....Do you have enough testicular fortitude in you to do what its going to take to drive around me for the win and the Benji's?......Don't think to long son,I am now scheduling my 5 weeks of vacation and its been awhile since I have been into the Northwest and I have some people I can visit while there.Heck,who knows they may even want to see you get humbled by an old man and his stock truck......Andy

money is no option in my book:c:, i to have an old man guiding me threw my builds one of the first to start doing diesel performance name is bill smullan a good ol boy that retired in 98' from cummins performance owning the highest powered cummins at the time out of sacremento, i know i have conections:ok1:

:pca1:

Can i come?

dont know we dont even have a drag strip here

So meet half way


:pca1::pca1::pca1:

half way were:humm:

reply to lope topic
 

from what ive heard and worked on myself I turn the idle a pretty good ways up and turn the timing up thats what gives you that slightly high idle big lope sound and it will make it run better:humm:

my 94 is slightly above a lope. does that mean I should race?

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Jim fulmer and Mad Dog, there, I win

Ok boys
 

U want a ppumped motor to lope ur gonna loose power, and ur buddy truck there def isn't the baddest street truck on the plannet lol! 800 horse is pretty good but not the baddest definately. I mean I'm in :edit: colledge and my 96 is around 8 at the wheels but u don't hear me braggin. Ag governors will make one run good and lope without loosing performance.:choochoo:

with whats in your sig your saying you have 800 rwhp on fuel? :humm: Find that a little hard to believe

You run an ag gov oh my you must have 800 or more.:nope:

Children, children, now stop!!! All I'm gonna say is mine doesn't lope like some on YouTube but with the 5x.014's and the 4000's I'd does lope a very little and when I noticed the difference is when I changed the injectors :c::argh:

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That truck sounds like shit!

when is the race?:pca1::c:

never gonna happen

Bigger Injectors and a lopeing engine at idle means not enough fuel....., If you still have the .181 dvs on a 215 pump itll lope with big injectors, depends on timing and injector angle etc..., the right timing and injector angle you wont have ne lope with .181 dvs with up to 5x.16s or so, i nvr could fully take my lope away regardless of where i set my timing with my 5x.18s then put .191 dvs in and lope went away put bigger lines on and it came back so put lasers in and fuel pressure to fuel flow is just right...

Mine loped just before it puked the lift pump... fixed that then the VE went. But oh yeah... it loped before that pump died too!! I'd rather just have it not lope and go like a scalded cat when I hit the GO pedal!!

My buddy has a Scheid Lightning pump on his 99. It lopes when warmed up... But it sounds more like a really rough stuttering idle. I for one am not a fan of it.... If it's going to lope, it needs to be a nice slow lope like this:
That's Garret Sheild's woman, LeRae. That truck moves. :D

So what is the lope actually caused by? I know in the gassers it's the inefficient grind of the cam shaft at that particular rpm creating a low cylinder fill and miss firers.