Injector Question
What is the difference between injector types ..
Sac and dap .. is it a brand name ? or ??? :humm: |
I think you mean SAC vs VCO DAP is a supplier lol. Here is the best article I have found to date for your answers and the reason I went with SACs.
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...ZnZfJetEKc4aDg |
Well.. after reading that I beleive the 7 hole is my injector ... and I think thats what I was wondering .....
Thanks again ... your a welth of knowledge my friend ... :c:.. :tu: |
Lol not me just passing on good info.
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I would rather just have a nice clean running engine and reliablity for now ...
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The only thing I have heard about 7 hole is that they do not atomize as well because the spray from one overlaps the other. I saw a video that showed an example but I cannot find it.
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Huh ... I would be interested to see that my self
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IMO I would steer away from 7 hole 12 valve injectors.
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If you do not plan on changing your turbo you will not see the full benefit of doing more than 5x.011 injectors
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Originally Posted by jkidd
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If you do not plan on changing your turbo you will not see the full benefit of doing more than 5x.011 injectors
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your truck was designed for a 145* 5 hole nozzle. not a 148* 7 hole. Its pretty much that simple, a 5 hole works better. I personally wouldnt mess with an injector smaller than a 5x12
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Originally Posted by turbo2332
(Post 1069461)
your truck was designed for a 145* 5 hole nozzle. not a 148* 7 hole. Its pretty much that simple, a 5 hole works better. I personally wouldnt mess with an injector smaller than a 5x12
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the .020 washer place the nozzle closer to the bowl yes. however the spray pattern is still 7 holes instead of 5 and 145* vrs 148*. ive ran around several guys with 7 hole injectors and me personally i think they are excessivly smokey and run like hell. a good set of 5x12's set at 270 bar work better.
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Originally Posted by turbo2332
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the .020 washer place the nozzle closer to the bowl yes. however the spray pattern is still 7 holes instead of 5 and 145* vrs 148*. ive ran around several guys with 7 hole injectors and me personally i think they are excessivly smokey and run like hell. a good set of 5x12's set at 270 bar work better.
SACorVCO maybe I'm missing something ? :humm: |
When it comes to two injectors with a comparable fuel delivery, one having 7 holes and
the other having 5 holes. The 7 hole injector should demonstrate better fuel atomiztion because of the smaller hole size. This would account for the observation that the 7 hole version results in quicker spooling, better low end throttle response, less smoke and lower egt's. Blackskyracing did back to back dyno runs comparing 5x14 VCO injectors to 7x10 SAC injectors. Both made the same power but with the 7 hole injectors demonstrating the other advantages listed above. 5x14 SAC injectors would have made more power, but without them in the back to back dyno runs it is impossible to say how much more. 5x14 CSA is 0.0007697 and the 7x10 CSA is 0.0005498. That roughly makes the 5x14 a 200 HP over stock injector and the 7x10 a 125 HP over stock injectors. SAC can give a smaller injector 50 - 75 HP more over a VCO injector. So the 7x10 SAC now acts like a 7x12 VCO injector (200 HP over stock) or a 5x14 VCO injector. The conclusion is that for comparable 5 and 7 hole SAC injectors(7x10-5x14, 7x12-5x16, 7x14-5x18), the 5 hole version will make slighlty more power while the 7 hole version will demonstrate the other advantages listed above. The 7 hole advantages likely come from atomization, while the 5 hole advantages likely come from spray pattern considerations. When it come to making a decision, it will come down to your goals. When the goal is maximum power, the 5 hole version seems to be the better choice. While for a daily driver, the 7 hole stands out as the better choice. did I miss read the article ? or did the guys you run around with not have a well set pup injector(s) ?? :humm: |
buy what you want man. im just telling you what ive experienced. and 5x14's are advertised as 140hp injectors. you may be luck to see 100 if you have the air for them. a 7x10 are a shade larger than stock and a tiny bit smaller than a 5x12. and you want a SAC nozzle. but its whatever, build the truck into what you want.
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