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diesel dunk 09-07-2011 06:07 PM

lots of questions
 
i just bought my first diesel i gave a 2007 dodge cummins 2500 5.9 automatic, im looking for upgrades. i was wanting a good chip to blow good smoke, and good mpg, and horsepower. i am also looking for a good air intake... anything will help thank you

*dixistar* 09-07-2011 08:16 PM

Diablo sport predator is a smoke blowin programmer. Get the diamond eye 5inch exhaust and afe makes a good intake also get a air dog fuel pump filter combo to save your injectors. Im having to buy 2300 worth of injectors cus i burned em up.:tu:

H.R.D 09-07-2011 08:24 PM

If you want good reliable power I suggest a SMARTY programmer. Always do an intake and exhaust to let her breathe then start saving for lift pump, and tranny upgrades.:tu:

Just a word of advice don't say "make smoke or blow smoke or anything that resembles those terms" say make power, smoke is a by product of performance.

*dixistar* 09-07-2011 09:19 PM

Just a word of advice don't say "make smoke or blow smoke or anything that resembles those terms" say make power, smoke is a by product of performance.[/QUOTE]

Dont listen to this guy he is a Debbie downer, most people like him keep there trucks stock because there to afraid to play around. I:poak:

H.R.D 09-07-2011 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by *dixistar* (Post 795921)
Just a word of advice don't say "make smoke or blow smoke or anything that resembles those terms" say make power, smoke is a by product of performance.

Dont listen to this guy he is a Debbie downer, most people like him keep there trucks stock because there to afraid to play around. I:poak:[/QUOTE]

It is just a word of advice newbie don't have to take it but you will wish you had of. :tu: Also if you look at my sig you will see I am pretty far from stock.

coors_man_2005 09-07-2011 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by H.R.D (Post 795925)
Dont listen to this guy he is a Debbie downer, most people like him keep there trucks stock because there to afraid to play around. I:poak:

Just a word of advice newbie don't have to take it but you will wish you had of. :tu: Also if you look at my sig you will see I am pretty far from stock.[/QUOTE]

just go look at some of the (i want more smoke threads) and see where they take everyone but for your question what hrd said

Youngblood 09-07-2011 09:53 PM

Another one lookin for smoke eh? :argh:

*dixistar* 09-07-2011 10:16 PM

Look im sure the guy just wants to roal a lil coal on some ricer punks, and not pour all his money into a truck he will trade off in 2 years. :argh:

H.R.D 09-07-2011 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by *dixistar* (Post 795961)
Look im sure the guy just wants to roal a lil coal on some ricer punks, and not pour all his money into a truck he will trade off in 2 years. :argh:

This mentality is what gives us True Diesel Folk a bad name.:td:

BriteWhiteRam 09-07-2011 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by *dixistar* (Post 795961)
Look im sure the guy just wants to roal a lil coal on some ricer punks, and not pour all his money into a truck he will trade off in 2 years. :argh:

garbage bag over the aircleaner, works every time:w2:

diesel dunk 09-08-2011 12:35 PM

So if i did get the smarty, which one smarty would be the best to get?? And all i was really wanting to do was get a smarty and get intake and exhaust.

*dixistar* 09-08-2011 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by H.R.D (Post 795967)
This mentality is what gives us True Diesel Folk a bad name.:td:

And what makes a true diesel folk? enlighten me:pca1:

vcustoms86 09-08-2011 02:05 PM

Someone who knows that overfueling a daily driven truck just to look cool is dumb. :c:

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Also, I agree on the Smarty. Smarty S-06 is what you would want. The only other tuner id go with would be an Edge. A Smarty tuner is not a shift on the fly style tuner. It also doesnt come with guages but the tunes are a little bit better thean the edge and you have more control. If it was me personally, I would get the Edge since its easier to play with, comes with a guage monitor, and since your just doing the basics. Id go with a AFE stage 2 intake and a MBRP 4in turbo back exhaust too. Just my .02 :c::c:

Captain Call 09-08-2011 02:07 PM

Or he could build some good power with EFI Live.....but then there's that "smoke" thing.

vcustoms86 09-08-2011 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Captain Call (Post 796145)
Or he could build some good power with EFI Live.....but then there's that "smoke" thing.

I forgot about EFI Live now. That would depend on how confident he feels doing that. We all know smoke is going to happen at some point. Its just getting to that point properly and with minimal longterm effects on the engine that i was trying to convey. :c:

diesel dunk 09-08-2011 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by vcustoms86 (Post 796141)
Someone who knows that overfueling a daily driven truck just to look cool is dumb. :c:

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Also, I agree on the Smarty. Smarty S-06 is what you would want. The only other tuner id go with would be an Edge. A Smarty tuner is not a shift on the fly style tuner. It also doesnt come with guages but the tunes are a little bit better thean the edge and you have more control. If it was me personally, I would get the Edge since its easier to play with, comes with a guage monitor, and since your just doing the basics. Id go with a AFE stage 2 intake and a MBRP 4in turbo back exhaust too. Just my .02 :c::c:

okay thank you. i liked the edge CTS, i looked them up last night actually. but is the edge hard to install? or would i have to have someone install it?? im looking for good mpg too.. has some power when i need it cause i pull cattle, and hay...

Youngblood 09-08-2011 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by diesel dunk (Post 796172)
okay thank you. i liked the edge CTS, i looked them up last night actually. but is the edge hard to install? or would i have to have someone install it?? im looking for good mpg too.. has some power when i need it cause i pull cattle, and hay...

If you are using the programmer to over fuel the truck (i.e. Using it just to get smoke.) you'll hurt your MPG's, but if you tune it right and use it to make power, then your MPG's will increase.

vcustoms86 09-09-2011 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by diesel dunk (Post 796172)
okay thank you. i liked the edge CTS, i looked them up last night actually. but is the edge hard to install? or would i have to have someone install it?? im looking for good mpg too.. has some power when i need it cause i pull cattle, and hay...

The hardest part will be tapping your manifold to install your egt probe but there is plenty of us that can walk you through it so no worries. You will get good mpgs out of it aslong as you dont turn it all the way up. If you going to be pulling hay and livestock, i would definitley get the Edge since you will need to watch you EGT's. Air intake and exhaust are easy to install. :c:

diesel dunk 09-09-2011 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by vcustoms86 (Post 796507)
The hardest part will be tapping your manifold to install your egt probe but there is plenty of us that can walk you through it so no worries. You will get good mpgs out of it aslong as you dont turn it all the way up. If you going to be pulling hay and livestock, i would definitley get the Edge since you will need to watch you EGT's. Air intake and exhaust are easy to install. :c:


i was looking at the AFE stage 2 intake and there are like 3 different kinds of stage 2, whci one would be the best to choice?

and i will mostly have my edge in the lowest as possible unless im hauling...

vcustoms86 09-09-2011 12:06 PM

AFE Stage 2 Cold Air Intake System with Pro 5R Filter PN: 54-11342-1. IS what Im running on my 07. As far running it on the lowest tune, that might not be the best MPG setting. Even though all these tuners come with a "MPG" Tune, ive rarely seen where the truck gets the best MPGs on that tune. Like on my 24v, I get the best if I run my Edge on level 5, the highest but on my 07 where I have my H&S Tuner, I run it on the 2nd tune. The thing with tuners is you have to find the tune that works best for YOUR truck. You have to find that happy spot where the engine is working the least but not being over fueled. When your pulling is when you want to tune it DOWN! :bat:
The more fuel you add, the higher your EGTs, the faster you melt the motor. I never let mine get over 1400 F'. I rarely push it passed 1300. If there is any acroymns Ive used that you dont know, just let me know and ill explain. Another thing with the Edge is you can use its trans temp sensor feature if your running an automatic. That way you can see how hot your tranny is getting while pulling. :c:

retread225j 09-11-2011 10:11 PM

get the smarty, good intake, get rid of cat and stock muffler and get good performance muffler.:rocking:

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the 07 has a 4" system already on it and unless you are planning on building some real big power 5" exhaust is a waste of money.

vcustoms86 09-12-2011 11:53 AM

Id stick with the Edge. Guages are important. Easier to change tunes. Better for towing. You can get a full TRUE 4inch exhaust for around 300 bucks. That means you dont have to cut and splice your stock system and you will have alot better sounding truck.


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