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KingCopa 06-09-2011 05:47 PM

Valve adjustment?
 
I'm getting ready to adjust my valves and was wondering if the valve cover gasket is reusable since it has all the wires and crap thanks in it for the injectors.

deerslayer1 06-09-2011 06:33 PM

yes it is reusable

steved 06-10-2011 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by KingCopa (Post 762114)
I'm getting ready to adjust my valves and was wondering if the valve cover gasket is reusable since it has all the wires and crap thanks in it for the injectors.


The valve cover gasket is a single piece, and as noted reusable...the rocker box gasket has all the wires your referring to...you should not need to disassemble the rocker box unless its leaking.

KingCopa 06-13-2011 10:03 AM

Ok so I can take it all off as one peice and the gasket is reusable, thanks for the info !! :tu:

dangerous1965 06-13-2011 10:29 AM

Why are you adjusting the valves? Already have a 100k on that truck! WOW!!

KingCopa 06-14-2011 03:59 PM

Yup, just got 100k miles so I figured better do it to stay on top of the maintenance so it last several 100 thousand more !!

dangerous1965 06-14-2011 10:41 PM

pretty easy to do IF you know how! That's alot of miles! What have you done to it? 2 micron filter?

Bucholz 06-16-2011 12:21 AM

So do my valves need adjusted on my 2005 cummins? It keeps makin this knock time sound at random times puffs a little smoke and then it purrs like a kitten and i cant figure it out. It doesn do it goin down the highway and it doesn do it all the time. I put power service injector cleaner in it the other day and it boost the cetain levels and its been really hot didn think about that lol. Could that be my problem?

cummins army 06-16-2011 01:27 AM

i have 163*** miles on my 06 do i need to adjust them they have never been touched ??

K80 06-16-2011 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by cummins army (Post 764396)
i have 163*** miles on my 06 do i need to adjust them they have never been touched ??

I would at least check them. You're a little over due. :pca1:

vcustoms86 06-16-2011 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by cummins army (Post 764396)
i have 163*** miles on my 06 do i need to adjust them they have never been touched ??

Yes get them adjusted. Cummins says every 100k. Depending on how hard the truck gets driven, its not a bad idea to get them done every 75k.

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Originally Posted by Bucholz (Post 764384)
So do my valves need adjusted on my 2005 cummins? It keeps makin this knock time sound at random times puffs a little smoke and then it purrs like a kitten and i cant figure it out. It doesn do it goin down the highway and it doesn do it all the time. I put power service injector cleaner in it the other day and it boost the cetain levels and its been really hot didn think about that lol. Could that be my problem?

I dont think your valves would cause that unless one was broke. Could be wrong but when your valves are needing adjusted, the truck usually runs a little rougher all the time. You dont notice it til AFTER you get them adjusted though.

cummins army 06-16-2011 12:01 PM

well it still runs like a champ and will pull anything i need it too well this will give me something to do when i get back from deployment

KingCopa 06-16-2011 10:49 PM

My truck is bone stock and I have used fleetgaurd or mopar fuel filters ever other oil change which are about 5k miles. I'm pretty easy on the truck mostley unloaded to and from work and maybe about 2k miles a year pullin my toyhauler to the dunes or camping. Doing the valves will be easy, I have always done all my own work, just wanted to make sure I had all my stuff together before I started. Nothing worse then getting halfway through a job only to realize you don't have the stuff to finish :scare2:

Red Mega 07-19-2011 04:31 PM

Maybe I'm missing something (highly likely), but my factory service manual states that the valves don't need to be adjusted unless a procedure has been performed that impacted the valve/rocker assembly:

The 24–valve overhead system is a “low-maintenance”
design. Routine adjustments are no longer necessary,
however, measurement should still take place when
troubleshooting performance problems, or upon completion
of a repair that includes removal and installation
of the valve train components or injectors.

Can someone clear this up for me? I'm at 122,000 now.

steved 07-19-2011 04:49 PM

If you check them, they will need adjusted...they don't do a good job at the factory....

Red Mega 07-19-2011 05:28 PM

Ok, that makes sense. I will probably need to get on mine then. Thanks for clarifying!

cumminspwrram59 07-20-2011 10:16 AM

the valve cover and rocker box assembly are 2 different pieces the rocker box is bolted to the head and the valve cover is bolted to the rocker box there really is no need to take the rocker box off but both gaskets are reusable.

1993firstgennewbie 07-20-2011 10:49 PM

how much does it cost to have this done or is it easy to do

NadirPoint 07-20-2011 11:31 PM

DIY
 

Originally Posted by 1993firstgennewbie (Post 776584)
how much does it cost to have this done or is it easy to do

It's easy AND free if you do it yourself!

MrSandman818 07-21-2011 01:16 AM

Shims or lock nuts???
 
Before I tear into mine. Are they the typical adjustable screw and lock nut or the stupid shims or pucks? Just wanna make sure since I dont have the manual. Thanks.

steved 07-21-2011 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by MrSandman818 (Post 776624)
Before I tear into mine. Are they the typical adjustable screw and lock nut or the stupid shims or pucks? Just wanna make sure since I dont have the manual. Thanks.



Screws...the only tools needed are those to remove the valve cover, a barring tool to turn the engine over, a set of feeler gauges, and the hex wrench and allen wrench to do the actual adjustment. Its not a bad job, just takes patience.

There are a lot of good write ups on the forums on how to do it at home.

NadirPoint 07-21-2011 11:35 AM

You don't even need a barring tool. The engine can be turned with the alternator pulley.

steved 07-21-2011 11:45 AM

Except that you turn the engine the wrong direction, and that it is considered the incorrect way to set the valves.

NadirPoint 07-21-2011 01:09 PM

Bullshit
 

Originally Posted by steved (Post 776745)
Except that you turn the engine the wrong direction, and that it is considered the incorrect way to set the valves.

Totally. Show where it's written that would be considered "incorrect."

And I don't mean some butthead on a web forum, either. A link or reference to service manual of some sort from a reputable source.

Otherwise, like I said: Bullshit.

steved 07-21-2011 01:37 PM

Show me where it states to use the alternator and not the barring tool? The manual states barring tool...

NadirPoint 07-21-2011 01:50 PM

Circular Motion
 

Originally Posted by steved (Post 776745)
...that it is considered the incorrect way to set the valves.

Considered by who(m)? You?

The engine goes round 'n round, where it stops nobody knows.

Makes exactly NO DIFFERENCE how it goes around or which direction as long as you know what you are doing.

That seems to be the challenging part sometimes now, don't it - knowing what you are doing? :nope:

Apparently my truck's been running great for years with the valves set incorrectly. :w2:

silverbullet1 07-23-2011 03:08 AM

Please correct me if I'm wrong but checked my valves at 100k and bout to roll 200k and do it again but these are the specs I went by per cummins. The intake valves are set to .010" and the exhaust valves are set to .020". The manual states that if the intake valves are between .006" and .015" that they are within spec and don't require adjustment. The exhaust valves don't require adjustment if they are between .015" and .030".

Super Dave 07-27-2011 11:54 AM

Thats sounds right. But since you are checking them anyway, might as well set them back to factory spec. :tu:

coleshimmin 12-09-2012 05:46 PM

Hey everyone im new to this site but just did a head gasket on my 2005 cummins i have the feeler guages and all the tools just need to know tdc on what cylinders to adjust the valves. can somebody help?

diesel rookie 12-09-2012 07:56 PM

I've adjusted the valves and still hear a tick seems to get worse after pulling job trailer and now noticing a bluish smoke ( its 14'f outside) and now a little black smoke after getting on it has edge ez but never did this before


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