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RanchhandTCR 05-24-2012 01:34 AM

Brake Question/ Issues
 
Ok I brought this up a while back and still having a problem. I changed my front brakes a while back and since then the brake pedal cant make its mind up to stay hard like it use to be or be soft and work. I dont get why it did it right after the brake change?? I bleed no air, the fluid is good, I dont know if the brake booster good I would think so?? Only think I can think of that I know about is that the two rotors are not the same width, the idiots a NAPA, dont understand when I say make both the same size, MAKE BOTH THE SAME SIZE!!!! plus If I knew it was gonna take four hours to do an hour job I would have gone else where to turn them. But any how can the rotors be the issue??? None of the calipers are leaking anything? just baffles me...
Also no codes. Just made sure, any ideas or some one who had this problem be glad to hear, I think Im gonna end up spending a 100 bucks on rotors and redo the brakes and while Im at it the axel seals since we FUBAR one when I did it last time... I also have one more question how hard is it to replace the steering box?? Is there anything special I need to do or can I pull the pitman off and go? I was reading you had to align it??? I just have some play in the steering wheel and its cockeyed to the left so fiqure I drop the 300 bucks and do that and the 160 for brakes and another 160 to get my lift pump done tomarrow down here in arizona, great time for that to go :argh: Any advice thanks and RAW if you read this Im thanking you a head of time THANKS!!!

Rogan 05-24-2012 09:55 AM

Brake issue: Not really sure. I don't think the rotor thicknesses are the issue here. How are the flex lines? Good shape? Was one kinked before? Check for line swelling when you depress the brake pedal.

Steering issue:
The steering box replacement isn't "hard", just time-consuming. Centering is a requirement, but it's just that: centering the steering. That part is easy.

Are you sure the play in the steering is the box, and not TREs and/or ball joints, track bar, etc.?

RanchhandTCR 05-24-2012 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Rogan (Post 897115)
Brake issue: Not really sure. I don't think the rotor thicknesses are the issue here. How are the flex lines? Good shape? Was one kinked before? Check for line swelling when you depress the brake pedal.

Steering issue:
The steering box replacement isn't "hard", just time-consuming. Centering is a requirement, but it's just that: centering the steering. That part is easy.

Are you sure the play in the steering is the box, and not TREs and/or ball joints, track bar, etc.?

Ya the ball joints are good, everything just got replace in 2010. I can see the play in the steering box to if I have some one turn the steering wheel.I checked for kinked lines also I didnt see any I havent had someone depress them yet so I dont know if they swell, Ill be under the truck today replacing the lift pump in hell here in arizona...:argh:

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I can add this to Yesterday when I took a right turn with the brakes depressed it pulled harder then let go after I return to center?

Rogan 05-24-2012 10:40 AM

I'm wondering if you don't have either a failing caliper or failing line.
I had a right-front caliper stick, and the pedal was hard as a rock when I bought the '01..

Here's the result..

https://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg84...pg&res=landing

https://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg84...pg&res=landing

Apparently, the previous owner knew of the issue, so his remedy was to clamp a small pair of vice grips onto the rubber line, up by the framerail... :argh:

RanchhandTCR 05-24-2012 11:05 AM

HMMMMM, I wonder I wonder, Im just curious as to why it was right after I changed brakes.. My rotors dont look close to like that, I know a caliper isnt hard to replace how hard is it to replace the line?? I will do a more therough look here in a minute...

Rogan 05-24-2012 11:08 AM

It's quite easy, to be honest, provided the rust isn't too hateful. beings you're in AZ, I think you'll have no problems..

RanchhandTCR 05-24-2012 11:22 AM

Well my lines look good, maybe its a caliper?? I just baffles me they work great for a while then not so great then back to great...
The brakes are hydaulic assist I know that, but even when they dont work so great they work but I ask it all from them they seem weak...

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Im from cloroado in AZ for personal stuff, kinda stuck here without my tool chest... Till next week. But then still I dont have a whole lot of rust truck pretty clean.. thank god..

Rogan 05-24-2012 11:44 AM

yours is hydra-boost, not vacuum, correct?

1AMatt 05-24-2012 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Rogan (Post 897146)
It's quite easy, to be honest, provided the rust isn't too hateful.

X2 on the rust! Its brutal changing brake lines here in New England :argh:

Dodgemanstan 05-24-2012 12:52 PM

CALIPERS ARE PRETTY CHEAP, GO THAT ROUTE! EASY TO REPLACE. ONE OF THE SEALS IN THE CALIPER MAY BE BAD.

RanchhandTCR 05-24-2012 03:06 PM

I will try that, next question is and its embarrisng how do you change the fuel filter on these 98.5 trucks its not a spin on and not cap, I tried turning the housing to the left it wont budge I dont want to bust anything.

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Ingnor the fuel filter question I figured out the little bugger, my fuel pressure guage was hiding the nut to it :argh: <-------- Dumbass.... ya mine is hydraulic assist...

1AMatt 05-24-2012 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Dodgemanstan (Post 897183)
CALIPERS ARE PRETTY CHEAP, GO THAT ROUTE! EASY TO REPLACE. ONE OF THE SEALS IN THE CALIPER MAY BE BAD.

Agreed... They are fairly inexpensive! A sticky seal in it could def cause it to hang up

RanchhandTCR 05-24-2012 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by 1AMatt (Post 897211)
Agreed... They are fairly inexpensive! A sticky seal in it could def cause it to hang up

Guess thats what Ill do unless I find somthing obvious, thanks for all the imput guys, and with the steering box do you have to align the box to the frame??? I know you hove to align the steering wheel seems eazy enough to do that...

RanchhandTCR 07-21-2012 04:59 PM

Just wanted to let you know what my Brake issue turned out to be, My wheel BEARING!!!! It started clunkin around this weekend and just replaced it today and drove 50 miles and brakes are nice a hard. So just another suggestion to give anyone when all troubleshooting has failed.

turbo20psi 07-23-2012 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by 1AMatt (Post 897179)
X2 on the rust! Its brutal changing brake lines here in New England :argh:

X3 on Brake lines here in MD,the one that goes to the rear seems to go and then the rubbers ones on the front.:scare2::scare2::argh::argh::dang:

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Originally Posted by RanchhandTCR (Post 917533)
Just wanted to let you know what my Brake issue turned out to be, My wheel BEARING!!!! It started clunkin around this weekend and just replaced it today and drove 50 miles and brakes are nice a hard. So just another suggestion to give anyone when all troubleshooting has failed.

When I changed the ball joints (upper and lower both sides) one of the hub bearing assemblys sounded like it had sand in it. I replaced both of them at 78,000 miles. Just to add to what you found. :c:

RanchhandTCR 07-23-2012 10:30 PM

My truck has 234K on it, and i asked the owner if he ever replaced them and he said no and hes owned it for 8 years when it had 98K on it.


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