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Gamecocks 09-27-2011 10:22 PM

Normal?
 


is this normal for a stock truck? Does anything need to be looked at/ replaced?

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Red_Rattler 09-27-2011 10:25 PM

my old 2k would bounce like that, but thats def not normal smoke output :D How long have you owned the truck?

mysterync 09-27-2011 10:41 PM

Re: Normal?
 
That's probably a direct reflection of crank sampling rate, but who knows.my opinion On the smoke is it could be anything from a map sensor issue to larger injector installed by previous owner, maybe a original mads catcher? Something eliminating torque management? . The best judge of smoke output and density would probably a roll on, I feel like the sun/shadow is making the smoke exaggerated but I may be wrong, I'm that way a lot lol

Gamecocks 09-27-2011 11:06 PM

only owned the truck for a month, MAP sensor sould throw a code and run rough, right?
the sun might have made it look slighty exaggerated but SLIGHTLY. Ill take another video if you want to see it from a roll or something. an original mads catcher? I take it thats a tuner like the smarty? i highly doubt its got a tune stored in it, the trucks pretty balls-less. Something elimintating torque? such as...?
Sorry for the stupid questions

empty wallet 09-28-2011 10:25 AM

Is the RPM bounce you're talking about the slight shake in the needle when it's in park? Mine does that too, doesn't worry me much (or at all.) And these guys are right about the smoke, that's alot, I think you need to plug into a good scanner, sometimes the key trick doesn't give you everything

Gamecocks 09-28-2011 10:38 AM

yeah it bounces in park, doesnt really bother me too much. I got some TPPS codes read and cleared at autozone, the only ones it had was p0122, 0123, 1698 and of course 1693

empty wallet 09-28-2011 11:25 AM

you had apps voltage too low and too high codes at the same time? :humm:

well, you may need an apps, but I'm gonna go with mysternyc, maybe a set of injectors done by previous owner... but if the truck runs fine and doesn't throw any codes, what's the problem?

Gamecocks 09-28-2011 02:21 PM

yeah the 0122 and 0123 codes were strange, i posted this before i got the codes cleared, it runs better now still a snail on the highway, and still smokes about the same as whats in the video

GuyWithA24Valve 09-28-2011 03:25 PM

Have you tried adjusting the APPS at all since you've owned it? I agree that the high and low apps voltage codes at the same time is strange and maybe it could be a bad APPS?

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and have you done anything to the truck like a fuel system or gauges? Before I knew a whole lot about these trucks and my stock fuel pump was going out, the rpms would jump around like your gauge does. My tach moves around a little bit but not like that

mysterync 09-28-2011 03:28 PM

Re: Normal?
 
Apps probably had a history code set. Possibly unplugged with the key on, possibly idle validation switch issue. Map won't always set code, more so if its biased and not out of range

Gamecocks 09-28-2011 03:35 PM

sorry i forgot to mention (because its in another thread) i did adjust the apps, thats when it threw the codes, talked to a guy and got it fixed and then got the codes cleared. Ill check the MAP when i get a chance.

Thanks for all yalls help BTW

UglyTruck 09-29-2011 06:37 PM

check your intercooler boots and make sure one is not a ripped, unhooked, or has slipped out of a clamp. I had this happen earlier this year. I was just about to throw injectors at it. thank goodness someone on this site suggested that I check ALL the easy stuff first. all the boost was blowing out through the slipped boot instead of into the intake. this created a severe overfueled charge and tons of unburnt fuel thus the black smoke.

H.R.D 09-29-2011 06:56 PM

Never seen a 24v truck that the needle didn't bounce around on the RPM gauge.

Smoke is pretty heavy for a stock pickup. Do some simple things like clean air filter and change fuel filter. Then start looking into others ideas. Mysterync may be on to something with the larger injectors installed.

Here is a thread that shows how to build a boost tester to test for boost leaks.

https://www.dieselbombers.com/dodge-...tructions.html

Gamecocks 09-29-2011 11:37 PM

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thanks for everybodys help! Uglytruck hit the nail on the head!
I pulled both the IAT and MAP both were surprisingly clean
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So i started looking for a leak, heres what i found...
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got it fixed, smoke is pretty much non existant now and the trucks got a set of nuts on it lol

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empty wallet 09-30-2011 08:48 AM

So it had a boost leak? Glad to hear you got it fixed.... now that you know it doesn't have a set of injectors why don't you go ahead and put a good set in... then she'll have a "set of nuts" :c:


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