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PSDintheBACKWOODS 05-30-2011 12:41 AM

2000 24v 450hp truth or bs
 
OK, dont you hate it when u can tell someone is trying to compete with you but they have no idea what theyre talking about. An ASSOCIATE not friend of mine traded his 02 dakota sxt which was a descent truck for a 2000 5.9 24v 5spd. This truck has 245000 mi ,supposibly 140 hp injectors and an edge evo chip. It has dual stacks tht where rigged into the bed, dents and rust from head to toe, was previously in a front in collision. The previous owner tore the sh.t out of this truck. It blows black smoke that smells like antifreze, but still black smoke, he doesnt realize the cons to black smoke and constantly rolls around with the chip maxed out. But he told me 450 hp? He doesnt even have an egt guage. I told him staight up his cylinders must be on fire haha. Its the vp44 or sometin like tht without the common rail. I have an old 95 12valve i no it gets no where close to tht but im not greatly educated in cummins since my whole family drives psd and have some cummins farm trucks. Anyways anyone out there please let me no i wouldnt doubt with a well maintained 24v tht wasnt torn to crap cpuold definatly surpass 450 but what do u think about what i was told with most of the listed problems and most likely unknown proplems.

dukeboy_318 05-30-2011 01:09 AM

well, I can say this, I'm making a dyno proven 467 hp and 1158 ft lbs on the stock turbo through my 5spd on 99 24valve, so its possible, hot, heck yes, advisable, no. If its smelling like anti-freeze, that is a big issue, either headgasket or burnt piston or cracked block/head. The injectors and that chip combined, I'd guess, maybe 350-400 at the rear wheels, less if its an auto as you can lose 30% of your power through an auto easy. base line on the 24valve with an auto, bone stock actual numbers tested on a dyno, 168hp, 335 ft lbs, manual=192 hp and 405 ft lbs. again dyno proven. those injectors probably net him 90 -110 tops, chips maybe 50-100, im not to familar with the EVO chip personally so I'm not sure what its rated at off the top of my head, but in simple language, tell him to stop adding what the advertiser claim he'll get, he'll be lucky to get closer to the advertised power in my opinion

PSDintheBACKWOODS 05-30-2011 01:17 AM

hes not even adding what the companys advertise hes advertising what the guy he traded his old rig for told him. I guarentee u tht you take damn well of yr rig right. You dont drive it to shit or drive around everyday all day with the chip on high so u can see cool clouds of yr money go out the tailpipe right. And also would u think there could be any chance of cavitation in the cylinders cause i guarentee he runnin 1500 egt temp all day not even noing it

dukeboy_318 05-30-2011 01:20 AM

yeah, i dont hammer my truck at every light if thats what you mean, i hardly blow smoke but when i do, I peg my pyro in less than 3-4 seconds and can black out any intersection if i chose too, but I dont do that so no, I dont beat the piss out of it

PSDintheBACKWOODS 05-30-2011 01:23 AM

Hes got some southbend clutch too idk anything bout it but when he shifts from 1st to2nd the whole damn truck shakes like hell. Im pretty sure its because he cant drive manual but i wouldnt doubt tranny problems with 245000 miles on it

dukeboy_318 05-30-2011 01:26 AM

first of all, why is he even using 1st! thats way too low of a gear. he shouldnt short shift it either

PSDintheBACKWOODS 05-30-2011 01:34 AM

like i said dont think hes ever drove a manual diesel, hes used to the auto dakota. I think the only stick hes drivin was a 70s vette, but claims to used to have a 04 7.3 psd 5spd back at his home in montana, haha i told him 04 7.3 musta been a bitch convetin it! I bet he was wonderin why i laughted at him when he said that. But still with these 24v is there any chances of cavitation with egts at or over 1500?

dukeboy_318 05-30-2011 02:18 AM

oh yeah, anything over 1400 to me is in the danger zone of melting a ring or piston or worse. at 1600, its near fatal, this all depends on how long the egts are at that level, a second or two wont kill it, but 20-30 second or longer can cause damage

Hummin Cummins 05-30-2011 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by PSDintheBACKWOODS (Post 758834)
like i said dont think hes ever drove a manual diesel, hes used to the auto dakota. I think the only stick hes drivin was a 70s vette, but claims to used to have a 04 7.3 psd 5spd back at his home in montana, haha i told him 04 7.3 musta been a bitch convetin it! I bet he was wonderin why i laughted at him when he said that. But still with these 24v is there any chances of cavitation with egts at or over 1500?

IN 04 you could still get a manual transmission in a power stroke. It was a 6 speed but on the shifter I believe it was labeled L-5

01quadcab 05-31-2011 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Hummin Cummins (Post 758874)
IN 04 you could still get a manual transmission in a power stroke. It was a 6 speed but on the shifter I believe it was labeled L-5

but the 7.3 was last out in 03

PSDintheBACKWOODS 06-05-2011 03:31 PM

he rides around with his chip turned all the way up and rollin antifreze smelling smoke

vcustoms86 06-07-2011 05:25 PM

Well as much as i love cummins, i pray this one lets go tomorrow and its put out of her missery. I would say the truck is closer 300-320. Like Dukeboy said, these trucks start out under 200hp so making over twice that isnt as simple as injectors and a intro box. He shouldnt use 1st for daily driving. This is just another example of a dumbass who thinks its cool to blow smoke when he doesnt know anything about diesels. Do this. Ask him how many glow plugs his cummins has. If he says anything more than 0, shoot him. Thats just me though :bat:

PSDintheBACKWOODS 06-09-2011 12:22 AM

thats about what i was thinking he just thinks its amazing to see black smoke ive never seen a 5.9 tht couldnt smoke ya no but i guarentee u he says tht it has six glow plugs

vcustoms86 06-09-2011 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by PSDintheBACKWOODS (Post 761880)
thats about what i was thinking he just thinks its amazing to see black smoke ive never seen a 5.9 tht couldnt smoke ya no but i guarentee u he says tht it has six glow plugs

Have him suck-start a firearm.

ramdieselsmoke 06-10-2011 11:46 AM

i got 580@ rear wheels running s300 turbo bigger tubes and intercooler head studded marine gasket 150hp injectors fuel system vp44 hot pump edge juice with add prob forggettin some stuff

id say buy it stock build it yourself you can end up dumping tons and tons of money fixing a beat truck, if you plan on keeping the truck if not buy it beat it and sell it!

89silverbullet 06-14-2011 07:33 PM

If I where you, I would ask him how many park plugs his truck has. :)

coors_man_2005 06-14-2011 10:48 PM

you could ask about some muffler fluid but hell its not even funny no more the newones take it :scare2::argh:


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