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snm76 12-02-2010 07:31 PM

VP44 safe fuel pump pressures?
 
Did a Ford cummins conversion and installed a Fass system. When the weather was warm the pressure never dropped off of 18 psi under any load, now that its getting really cold for some reason my fuel pressure at idle is 18 psi. But if I start going under heavy throttle the pressure drops to 4 psi but no lower (the truck is at operating temps while testing.) Is this low pressure safe for the VP44 to operate or is it gonna grenade? I would rather fix this problem then get a new inj pump. Is it a problem or am I OK. Thanks!

turbo20psi 12-02-2010 09:18 PM

No lower then 10 psi on the VP44.Might want to check the filter and water seperator.What size line is going to the VP44?

snm76 12-02-2010 09:34 PM

ive got 3/8 lines in and out. Its wierd cause it was fine when the outdoor temps were higher. but now that its 20-40 degrees all the time the pressure has gone down. No leaks of any kind and I changed the fuel filter just in case. Also checked for line damage (kinks and such). Perhaps my new fass pump is going out? Is running the pressure lower than 10 psi gonna damage the VP44? I dont really notice a loss in power or any noise differences from the engine. The gauge is mechanical taking pressure just before the fuel filter assembly.:dang:

turbo20psi 12-03-2010 09:05 AM

Try bleeding the gauge there may be some air in it.

In time running it below 5psi will damage it,10psi seems to be the the stop spot for aftermarket pumps FASS,Airdog,ect.With good pressure means good cooling for the VP44.The only other thing is the pressure regulator which is in the FASS pump.

diesel pap 12-03-2010 09:42 AM

anything 4 lb or lower its just a matter of time.

RAW 12-03-2010 12:03 PM

I run a fairly constant 22 PSI, seems to be holding well.

cap 12-27-2010 12:40 AM

Is there such thing as to much pressure on a stock vp44? In other words would a FASS 150 be to much?

Dr. Evil 12-27-2010 02:36 AM


Originally Posted by cap (Post 675053)
Is there such thing as to much pressure on a stock vp44? In other words would a FASS 150 be to much?


Yes - the point at which its too much is debatable. Most guys dont like running much over 20 psi.

the FASS 150 is just fine. It should come with a regulator which allows you to turn down the pressure.

RAW 12-27-2010 08:10 AM


the FASS 150 is just fine. It should come with a regulator which allows you to turn down the pressure.
Mine doesn't have a regulator on it, at least not one that can be adjusted. Mine is about a year old, and is the Heavy Duty series, maybe the new ones are different.

Gear Poet 12-27-2010 09:31 AM

I've been running at 18-22 for 90K miles/eight years without a problem.

I had the symptoms the OP's described - although not in a FASS pump. Turned out there was an ice-plug at the pre-pump filter - a wad of gunk around which ice had formed. Just a thought.

1 slow cummins! 12-29-2010 06:47 AM

If there was a leak on the water seperater valve would that cause the fuel pressure to maybe drop? I did notice mine was leaking and went to order one but there is 936 on back order in the local dodge store...

cap 12-30-2010 12:42 AM

Does anyone know at what pressure does a FASS 150 run at without a regulator?

RAW 12-30-2010 12:50 AM

My heavy duty series 150 has 23-24 at idle, and 21-22 at WOT, at the IP. I also have the factory fuel filter in the fuel system.

cap 12-30-2010 02:51 AM

where is your fuel pressure gauge at? at the lift pump or the injection pump or the fuel filter?

RAW 12-30-2010 07:33 AM


at the IP
It's right on the banjo bolt for the VP44 supply.

vineyardm 12-30-2010 12:54 PM

Suggest you get rid of the banjo bolts! All of them!!!!!!

BTW - if you get the Vulcan line kit to eliminate the banjo bolts, you can get a fitting that attaches to your VP44 pump that has a tap-off to measure your fuel pressure - AS IT GOES INTO THE VP44.

It is far better to measure the pressure at the place it really counts!!

(I would think that if you keep pressure to the VP44 - measured at the VP44 - above 5 psi - you would be in much better shape than if you were measuring 5 psi at the fuel filter!! If 5 psi at the fuel filter, what is the pressure at the VP44??)


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