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smokybob 11-27-2013 01:10 PM

Transmission fluid change 47re METAL PIECES FOUND
 
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Hey all
First transmission fluid change since purchasing of my 2001 24 valve cummins. I found these two larger metal pieces.
Has anyone else found these?
Is this a big problem?
Does anyone know exactly what they belong to?

The pieces together appear that they would form a ring shape.

Transmission status: 196K miles believed to be stock tranny. When fluid just dropped it appears to be very used.
Shifting:
1) jumps 300rmps up/down when cruising at approx 35mph. (1200-1500 rpm back and forth)
2) hard shift and slight shudder when shifting into overdrive.

I purchased new fluid, filter/gasket, pressure sensor transducer, and solenoid to fix the problem. . . but then found these pieces.

Thanks bob

mysterync 11-27-2013 01:24 PM

Hard to tell but looks like one of the snap rings. Looks like its time for a build.

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smokybob 11-27-2013 02:07 PM

:ouch: well, seeing that its winter here and only 30 degrees, and that I am a bartender not a mechanic, anyone have a good shop in Colorado or the four corners region?

clementsdiesel 11-27-2013 05:19 PM

who knows how long those have been in there I would think if it was going to break it would of already I know its not the best thing to do but if it was me I would drive it till you notice things getting worse

mysterync 11-27-2013 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by clementsdiesel (Post 1037418)
who knows how long those have been in there I would think if it was going to break it would of already I know its not the best thing to do but if it was me I would drive it till you notice things getting worse

The concern would then be additional damage to internals. You may go from a $3500 to 4500 or more if you had to have hard parts.

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clementsdiesel 11-27-2013 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by mysterync (Post 1037426)
The concern would then be additional damage to internals. You may go from a $3500 to 4500 or more if you had to have hard parts.

Im not going to say its cheap but from my experience complete stock 47re transmission rebuilds don't cost that much were talking 2100-2500 bucks that's labor fluid and taxes you get into the 3500 4500 range when you start beefing stuff up and that's a lot of stuff beefed up

mysterync im not saying your wrong things may be higher were your at

mysterync 11-28-2013 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by clementsdiesel (Post 1037454)
Im not going to say its cheap but from my experience complete stock 47re transmission rebuilds don't cost that much were talking 2100-2500 bucks that's labor fluid and taxes you get into the 3500 4500 range when you start beefing stuff up and that's a lot of stuff beefed up

mysterync im not saying your wrong things may be higher were your at

Why would you put a stock rebuild under anything? These transmissions had problems which caused alot of headache for their owners. If your going to drop 2k in something why not go ahead and go with a 3d converter, extra clutches, upgraded band apply and a vb?

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clementsdiesel 11-28-2013 09:03 AM

im not going to argue im just saying my two cents everyone has different opinions

I couldn't afford a 3500 transmission rebuild I could afford a 2500 rebuild not everyone has money for that extra 1000 just an option

smokybob 11-29-2013 11:56 AM

Right. That is where I am at. The modifications on this truck are unknown to me besides the obvious. chip, exhaust, intake, intake elbow etc... A stock tranny might not hold up well, and the forest road I pull horses and hunting gear up will eat a 47re even in a completely unmodified cummins so a beefed up tranny is my best option. One big problem is right now I can't even afford a simple rebuild. I may have to drive it the way it is for awhile.....thanks for the help guys. Im sure Ill have more questions on this in the future

Dynamic 12-01-2013 08:54 PM

Those are pieces of your overdrive direct clutch snap ring. It's very common to find those broken upon teardown. It should always be replaced at overhaul.

You should be able to have a very good build done for around $2500-3000, including converter...


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