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colinheitshusen 01-14-2013 09:07 AM

Torque Converter Random Unlocking,47RE
 
So it started saturday on a cold 5 degree morning taking off from my parking spot, and my truck gets to about 1600rpm in 1st gear (where it normally shifts) than it all of a sudden the Converter totally unlocks and smacks back into gear, almost felt like it was spinning on the ice, than getting back onto traction. This happaned twice right after taking off from stop lights, and does it quite periodically. So I already know the trans and especially the Converter is weak, but before i let it get worse and bite the bullet for a built trans, could it be a sensor of some sort thats causing it to let loose? I had a speed sensor go bad that was causing it to shift, lock, and unlock the converter, basically at random, but replaced it and all was fine till now.

Smarty=Cummins 01-14-2013 12:44 PM

Check Ur ground wires on your batterys n on your pcm and maybe spray some cleaner on that speed sensor. Hope this helps

colinheitshusen 01-15-2013 09:02 AM

Well now its starting to do it a lot more, like coming off the pedal than getting back into acceleration, the TC doesnt want to lock right away. Ill pull some sensors and do some wire checking,

Thanks :tu:

Farmboy 2.0 01-15-2013 10:49 AM

Check and Clean all the grounds on the truck and you may need to get a APPS noise isolater to take care of the noise interference at the pcm

Bryce 01-15-2013 07:48 PM

I'm sure you already checked, but is the trany full of fluid? How does the fluid look? When was the last time trany fluid and filter was changed?

colinheitshusen 01-15-2013 09:53 PM

What do you mean by apps noise isolator? And ya the fluid isn't perfect but its full. It's definetly the TC just by the way it acts.

Bryce 01-15-2013 10:39 PM

BD apps noise isolator. I have one on mine. It will clear up the tc going in and out of lockup at cruising speeds. By what you are describing, I don't think it will help you any but it's cheap and worth a shot.

colinheitshusen 01-16-2013 09:23 AM

Alright i looked into the Noise isolator and that looks like a good start. But if i need to Start looking at an entire transmission in general i was thinking about suncoast? anyone have thoughts about them or other shops?

RAW 01-16-2013 12:58 PM

T/C shouldn't lock up until 3rd and O/D, unless you have a T/C lock up switch. Are you sure it is the T/C locking up and unlocking, or is it jumping between gears?

colinheitshusen 01-17-2013 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by RAW (Post 980251)
T/C shouldn't lock up until 3rd and O/D, unless you have a T/C lock up switch. Are you sure it is the T/C locking up and unlocking, or is it jumping between gears?

Well if the TC isn't supposed to lock than what is it causing my motor to basically free spin in first and 2nd. it does it at 1500 RPM in first. Ill be driving and it will almost always let loose around 1500 and spin up to 2100 or so than slam back into gear. Than in 2nd, if i am taking a turn and getting back on the pedal it will free spin worse and sometimes doesnt re engage till it shifts the transmission down to first. It doesnt feel like its jumping between gears. once it gets up to thirsd its solid like it always has been.

RAW 01-17-2013 09:44 AM

If the governor solenoid is sticking, it may cause the issue. As much as I like DIY, when there are issues like this I take it to my transmission guy. There is a lot going on in the trans.

colinheitshusen 01-18-2013 09:09 AM

Well i checked for codes using the key trick and came up with the P1693, so who knows whats behind that. I had it come up before, than go away and hasnt came back so hopefully it has something to do with it. After it kicks back into gear, the transmission feels fine and shifts up from the top of 2nd up to over drive just fine

Spankey0069 04-07-2013 01:16 PM

My truck is doimg basically the same thing. Mine is a little more random with the falling out of gear (or whatever). Same code though p1653. Its progressively getting worse. Started last week onky doing it once every so often. Now its doing it constantly. I have parked the truck til I can figure out the problem.

Tranny fluid is clean but bubbly. It has been changed along with the filter within the last year or so.

colinheitshusen 04-08-2013 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Spankey0069 (Post 1000970)
My truck is doimg basically the same thing. Mine is a little more random with the falling out of gear (or whatever). Same code though p1653. Its progressively getting worse. Started last week onky doing it once every so often. Now its doing it constantly. I have parked the truck til I can figure out the problem.

Tranny fluid is clean but bubbly. It has been changed along with the filter within the last year or so.

What gears is it doing dropping out of. An apps Noise isolator could be your problem. After all this trans trouble i pulled my air box and found my isolater had came unplugged, regrounded it and still had troubles.

My trans is now out of the truck and being rebuilt by Goerend. All my clutches were basically fried and come to find out both my tranny cooler lines were cracked. No temp guage really bit me in the A** this month.

Spankey0069 04-14-2013 11:31 PM

Thanks for the reply!
I disconnected both batteries and turned the key on for an hour or so. When i hooked them back up v and reset the tps it ran fine...wierd!

Spankey0069 04-21-2013 10:28 PM

Now my '96 is having the same problem but the battery trick didnt work on this one. Im hoping its not a tired tc. The truck does have 220k on her. Im going to try some lucus and get my jands on a noise isolaterand see if that helps. Any other suggestions?


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