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hulse09 12-14-2012 01:53 AM

losing it prime
 
lately my truck has been losing it prime after only sitting for like 1/2 hr. cant seem to find where its coming from. anyone know where i should start or hear of anyone having probablems. say it will crank and crank but wont start. but if i bump the starter and let my raptor 150 run say i do that 2 or 3 times and it fires right up and runs fine.

RAW 12-14-2012 06:36 AM

Changing the overflow valve wouldn't hurt. They aren't very expensive, and can cause a lot of issues.

The return line banjo bolt on the back of the head is another common spot. Fuel won't leak out, but it will let air back in if it is loose.

diesel pap 12-14-2012 06:54 AM

i have used shop air in the tank to find leaks. be careful and not get too much. :hellox:

blacksally 12-14-2012 08:36 AM

are the injectors kindal ike ford ones were they can leak down????

diesel pap 12-14-2012 08:39 AM

cummins is fuel pressure only

hulse09 12-18-2012 10:57 PM

i still can find the probablem:argh: i still hv to cycle the lift pump even after sitting for an 1hr it will lose its prime. more input please:s:

diesel pap 12-19-2012 06:42 AM

did you pressure the tank up a little. :hellox:

RAW 12-19-2012 07:01 AM

What have you done so far so we don't repeat something?

tiremann9669 12-19-2012 10:52 AM

Are you running the stock sending unit ? Rust was a problem with mine :c:

hulse09 12-20-2012 10:39 PM

checked the overflow valve put a wrench on my fittings all seem tight. changes fuel filter with ne o-ring. have not put and pressure to it yet. and im sure its still the stock sending unit. all i did was put a raptor 150 on it. i notice soon as u turn the truck off the fuel press drops right off but shouldnt it have some even with the lift pump not running? if i cant find anything could i just run my raptor 150 hot all the time not one when u go to start the truck.

H.R.D 12-20-2012 10:43 PM

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Below is how you test the Overflow Valve....

hulse09 12-21-2012 01:23 AM

if its bad how would that make me lose my prime

Bryce 12-21-2012 01:34 AM

If the overflow is stuck open even just a little it will allow the fuel in the vp to drain into the fuel return line and back to the tank. Does it loose prime even with a full tank of fuel?

hulse09 01-01-2013 09:05 AM

well i hope everyone enjoyed there new years party. hope this year is better then the last. but anyhow i replaced my overflow valve yesterday and it didnt do a thing. iv gon throuh and put a wrench on every line i could. so im at a lose any more thought wht it could be??

hulse09 01-02-2013 09:17 PM

well replace my overflow valve and still noting:humm: say it wont start untill u cycle the lift pump a few times. im running 20-21psi for fule pressure. what should i run for a psi. ik when i get on it it drops to about 15-16. also when i cycle the lift pump my edge cs will only read like 18 then soon as it stops it will drop to 0 within seconds?? i would think i would hole some fuel psi hence the reason i think im loseing my prime. or is my VP44 going :argh:

mysterync 01-02-2013 10:12 PM

I would replace the connector tube o-rings and retorque the lines. 5 of 10 vp trucks that complain of extended crank times from my experience will have a leaking connector tube. I start here because its hard to confirm and very cheap to repair lol The other 5 are vp/lift pump issues. Ive seen a few occasions where aftermarket systems were leaking and loosing prime, maybe one cracked tank module. Used to use air to check them but a smoke machine is much more effective in the lp or suction side. 21+ psi will also cause a hard start.
Also wondering why or how you confirmed a loss of prime?
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hulse09 01-03-2013 08:18 PM

i just figured i was losseing prime bc after u cycle the lift pump a few times it will start. and are u saying i should bake the pressure off my raptor 150 to 18 or so psi. i guess i can replace the connector tub o rigs. shouldnt be to hard of a job if i get i puller??

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well did some more looking today and i found fuel on the bottom on my raptor 150? say there are allen head bolts and i couldnt tighten them anymore looks like a seal or something is bad there

mysterync 01-03-2013 08:30 PM

Thats probably the issue lol

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