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lodal cummins 02-16-2012 11:17 PM

Timing spacer
 
Can anyone tell me is that a t50 or t40 to remove ksb? looks like a wobler is needed here not much room. Thanks

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Anyone?

tower_ofpower 02-17-2012 12:10 AM

I vaguely remember it being a t40, a universal joint will make it a pain in the balls to keep lined up. It is a tight spot; but very do-able. Think it's bad taking it apart; wait til you try to put it back together. Lots of patience is key.


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lodal cummins 02-17-2012 12:31 AM

Oh great I have seen guys say it's only a 15 min job!!!!

moparbubbabt59l 02-17-2012 11:34 AM

Be careful its easy to strip out those t40s it soft metal mine where allens if I remember correctly and mine did had to use an extractor:( http://img.tapatalk.com/aefc4c6e-8f40-7232.jpg
Use grease to hold it together until you get it in place
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lodal cummins 02-17-2012 02:45 PM

Cool I planned on the grease trick to hold it together I think I will soak those bolts in hopes of them breaking free better. Stripping them is the last thing I want!:scare2:

tower_ofpower 02-17-2012 03:12 PM

Kit comes with two new screws for that reason, mine were the same length as stock. Don't know if they were supposed to be a hair longer or not but if they were that's explain the difficulty I had assembling my KSB with the spacer in place.


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moparbubbabt59l 02-17-2012 03:26 PM

Ok then the stockers are torx and the m&h are allens. Or at least mine where been a year since I did it. Plus you have to fight the spring tension to get em started.

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lodal cummins 02-17-2012 04:21 PM

Yeah I will get into it tonight and yes new ones are allens

cougar 02-19-2012 02:09 PM

I hope you have better luck with your than I have with mine. It's either my truck, or it just doesn't work as expected.

lodal cummins 02-19-2012 02:42 PM

Why what symptoms do you have? Plus mine had two stock sims in there one thick other thin. M&H says put stock (shim) ontop of m&h new shim. So I used the stock thicker one and left the thin one out.

cougar 02-19-2012 04:06 PM

The stock shims set a factory preload on the spring so that you get X advance at X case pressure.
When I have the spacer in in the summer, my idle RPM drops and engine wanders (can't think of any better way to describe it) at idle. Runs great otherwise. In the winter it's a real bugger to start, so I take it out.
My suspicion is I loose that spring preload with the spacer. So instead of the spring tension holding the timing piston against the bottom stop, it floats when case pressure is low like at idle. When the KSB is activated (cold weather starts), it gives me too much timing for a cold engine.

moparbubbabt59l 02-19-2012 04:09 PM

Never had that issue with mine worked great I bumped it up alittle from stock to. I've even hot wired the ksb and she just rattles alot.

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lodal cummins 02-19-2012 04:26 PM

So I just relized I put the old spacer on top of the new thick spacer on top of the spring. I did not use the shim WHOOPS!!!! Should not hurt anything. I hope!!!!


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