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big red ram 04-03-2011 05:07 PM

fuel filter
 
the black plastic drain is leaking again i cant get it to stop i have tryed teflon tape any othe ideas not big leak but at 4 bucks a gallon any leak is to much :argh:

Whit 04-03-2011 05:19 PM

its a bad o-ring or is it leaking where you thread it in??

if the leak is where you thread it in then you could have a cracked fuel bowl

big red ram 04-03-2011 05:24 PM

it looks like the previous ower may have cross threaded it in the past it has some pretty deep cuts in it can i do away with it

Whit 04-03-2011 05:27 PM

try some teflon paste instead of tape

first drain the fuel bowl and blow it out with air then use some cleaner to get it free of fuel then blow it again before ya do it with paste, there is some good teflon pastes out there the best one I like comes from Swedgelock

big red ram 04-03-2011 05:49 PM

cool i did not know they made a paste ill try it ill use brake clean to clean it it should do the job how lng should i let it dry i dont want it get it in my fuel system thank for all the help

fatirishguy 04-05-2011 08:46 PM

Get the right O-Ring the newer filters from fleetgaurd have O-ring but it is thinner than stock. Put the old O-ring next to the new one and you will see the diff.

1stgenSappy 04-05-2011 10:07 PM

WHat about getting a new one? If its been screwed up why not replace? Or can you get a new one?

oldfirebird 04-06-2011 06:37 AM

Mine was leaking. I fidgeted with the valve and it leaked worse, so I replaced the filter (it was due) and the valve. STILL had a drip. The seat on the motor was scuffed by the previous owner. I haven't tried to fix that just yet.

big red ram 04-06-2011 08:31 PM

i have not been able to find a new one my local dodge dealer is a joke they said my truck was to old and would not even look it up last time i go in their

oldfirebird 04-07-2011 04:30 AM

We're talking about this valve on the filter, right?
Cummins WIF Water In Fuel Sensor Filter 3831852-S
I think the box from mine's still in the garage, I hardly ever clean up. I'll look for the dodge part number tonight but there's a fleet guard number for now. My local dealer is small and was proud to help keep the old truck on the road

big red ram 04-07-2011 10:47 PM

thanks for the part # you think they would be proud to keep all of them on the raod they can its the last real truck dodge built my 01 sucks they where worried about comfort and not some thing that would last it is sitting behind the barn now it is soon to be my p pump parts doner truck:jump:

alpetjr 04-08-2011 04:40 PM

The fuel water sensor where the fuel filter screws in is leaking where the plug goes in. I cleaned up the socket good and epoxyed it good. That didn't stop the leak. It is still leaking in the socket. I know that the housing unscrews from the under the intake manifold but in order to get it out do I have to take off the push rod cover? Any body know where I can get a new sensoe housing? Again, it is the one that the fuel filter screws into. The top one. Thanks

oldfirebird 04-08-2011 06:53 PM

Don't know about the mount. Plan to try and surface mine with 400 grit when I get to it. BUT the mopar number on the water sensor is 1-04429116 if you want to call out your dealer.

fatirishguy 04-10-2011 10:36 PM

The O-Ring is a smaller diameter the the stock one I have had this happen with several other filters. O-RING.

big red ram 04-10-2011 10:41 PM

i think i will buy a cummins filter and see if that dose the trick thanks for all the help everyone:tu:

1stgenSappy 04-11-2011 03:08 PM

just fyi you might try your local peterbuilt or kenworth or other dealer of the like, i went to peterbuilt and gave them the fleetgaurd number and they had two of them in stock so i got a new sensor and a new filter might as well change that while im changing the sensor. i had no luck at the dodge dealer or other regular parts stores!

alpetjr 04-13-2011 03:26 PM

I called the local dealer. The fuel heater element is $245.00. Dodge part # 4429527AC. Anyone know where else I can get one at a better price?

NadirPoint 04-13-2011 03:58 PM

The only thing that WIF sensor does besides cause leaks is light the dash indicator if you get too much water in the fuel. If you don't run into that problem on a regular basis you can get a bigger, better filter with just a drain on it and leave the WIF sensor in the glovebox.

That's what I did, anyway.

Originally Posted by alpetjr (Post 739415)
I called the local dealer. The fuel heater element is $245.00.

How did we get from the WIF sensor to the heater?

big red ram 04-13-2011 10:36 PM

what is the bigger better filter

NadirPoint 04-14-2011 08:45 AM

The FS1000 (Fleetguard) is about a 10" tall F/W separating filter w/drain in 1-14 thread spud size. There's many out there. You just have to search the filter maker's cross-refs to find the one that suits your taste or budget.

WIX filters, WIX oil filters, WIX air filters, WIX fuel filters, WIX Heavy Duty Oil Filters : Filter Look-Up

alpetjr 04-14-2011 08:57 AM

Same area, the fuel filter. Ones on top and the other is on the bottom. So I figured why not

Gas 04-14-2011 07:59 PM

The engine only has 1 filter right? That wix site shows a primary and secondary filter. Which one is the one that threads on under the injection pump? Just remove it and fill the new one with diesel and install right? No bleeding the lines?

NadirPoint 04-15-2011 12:52 PM

Yep, 1. There's no fuel filter under the injection pump. It's under the rear portion of the intake plenum

Gas 04-15-2011 01:18 PM

And I just wing on the new one with a little diesel or some motor oil in it right? Just something to prime the motor? Then I pump the handle a couple times and I'm good to go?

NadirPoint 04-15-2011 04:31 PM

Yeah, if it starts. Prime it with the lift pump manual handle until fuel comes out the bleeder screw above it on the side of the manifold.

Then close the bleeder screw.

901stgen 04-15-2011 05:40 PM

I just recently had the same problem with mine. You have to put that screw in part first. Take it off of the filter and screw it up in there, there should be a slot on it for a big flat head screwdriver. Or you could be like me and use a gasket scraper. Once you get it tight screw the filter on. Its a retarded setup but thats what the deal was with mine. You just have to get that screw on part tight before you put the filter on. I know that was a half a** explanation but you should get the idea.....

alpetjr 04-17-2011 10:58 AM

If you go and take the fuel heater off isn't the stud going to be too long for the filter to screw back on?

slingshot 04-17-2011 09:04 PM

This whole thread is jacked!
If your WIF sensor is leaking because of stripped threads, then I would do away with the WIF sensor, and use the filter suggested up there^^^^^ somewhere.

If your fuel heater(above your filter) is leaking, then I would try replacing the o-ring that goes between the heater and the head.

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Originally Posted by alpetjr (Post 741164)
If you go and take the fuel heater off isn't the stud going to be too long for the filter to screw back on?



Yes, it will be too long.


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