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Billy D 04-11-2010 09:49 PM

05 wheels on a 1st gen
 
I got a set of aluminum wheels off an 05 CTD 4x4 :tu:and the dude told me they were 16's. Uh yeah, there 17's:dang:. I didn't know, he's a dork. Should I run these on my Goldie? What size 17 should I run? Anyone wana trade for 16's? Hmmmmmm.:humm:

TTipsword 04-11-2010 09:51 PM

you will prolly need a spacer so the wheels will clear the tie rods if its a 4x4. dunno about 2wheel drive.

Billy D 04-12-2010 07:20 AM

So all I need is the wheel spacers and I can run them:humm:? I wanted to run 245/75/16's, can I still run the same with the 17's:humm:? If so, will it throw off my speedo?:humm:

TTipsword 04-12-2010 09:01 AM

different soze tires will throw it off a little. the problem with the newer wheels are the offset of the wheels. I had a set of wheels and tires for $300 but they didnt fit. they ever so slightly tough the tie rod ends. Dont know exactly what the deal is but i do know you will need like 1/8 inch to clear them, might need longer lugs too. someone else will chim in.

1993firstgennewbie 04-12-2010 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Billy D (Post 535498)
I got a set of aluminum wheels off an 05 CTD 4x4 :tu:and the dude told me they were 16's. Uh yeah, there 17's:dang:. I didn't know, he's a dork. Should I run these on my Goldie? What size 17 should I run? Anyone wana trade for 16's? Hmmmmmm.:humm:

i have a 1993 dually and i just put a set of 2003 17"dually rims on yesterday and my studs were to large i had to drill the wheels out from 5/8 to 16mm and im running 235s or just about 31s i have 2x4 tho:c:

921stgen 04-12-2010 06:12 PM

Heres info on 3rd gen wheels. http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/d...ferrerid=64476

93smoker 04-12-2010 08:04 PM

I don't think they will work as the stud size on the newer trucks is also larger!

NadirPoint 04-12-2010 08:18 PM

You will need something like this, only about 2" thick:

http://stuff.is-a-geek.net/PhotoAlbu...cs/CTD_192.jpg

Get 9/16 studs in the adapters (not spacers). Good ones are not cheap. I paid ~$400 for the set, IIRC. Although it can be done and people have done it, I don't recommend running 3rd Gen wheels on the 1st Gen. It increases stress on the kingpins and wheel bearings due to the wider tire scrub path, throwing off the D60 steering geometry, as designed. I don't have any actual data to back this up, but I wouldn't go much more than around an inch wide with an adapter like that. Those are 1.25".

Billy D 04-13-2010 06:26 AM

Well that sucks! Glad I jumped into these, now I'm stuck with another pile of aluminum.:td:

TTipsword 04-13-2010 08:58 AM

its ok man. i did the same thing only resold the wheels for 200 more than i bought them for.:tu::tu:

Billy D 04-13-2010 05:27 PM

So can I run 2nd gen aluminum wheels on my 1st gen 2wd? Any, or what wheels can I run?

JDcummins 04-13-2010 06:49 PM

I got those crapy steel ones off a 07 they were free so I cant complain:tu: and I ordered 1/8'' spacers from JCwhittny for like 10bucks a piece and I have no problems with them:jump: but since your is two wheel drive dont know but yes the2nd gens will fit and you sould have no rubbing problems

RSWORDS 04-13-2010 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by Billy D (Post 535682)
So all I need is the wheel spacers and I can run them:humm:? I wanted to run 245/75/16's, can I still run the same with the 17's:humm:? If so, will it throw off my speedo?:humm:

spacers and larger wheels studs.

93oilburner 04-14-2010 03:41 AM

You'd need spacers with 2nd gen wheels too. I bought a set for my truck and the inside of the wheel hits the upper control arm

NadirPoint 04-14-2010 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Billy D (Post 537040)
So can I run 2nd gen aluminum wheels on my 1st gen 2wd? Any, or what wheels can I run?

You can run any wheels that will fit over the calipers with the correct backspace/offset to look right and not rub. Looks is optional. :tttt:

The stock 1st Gen wheels are 6" wide with zero offset.

Diesel Nut 04-14-2010 02:32 PM

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I have 3rd gen wheels on my 91.5 -

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What I learned doing it :argh:

Basically, the rear end is easy. You can swap out the 1/2" studs for 9/16" studs. They are a standard D60 style stud with a .625" knurl. The front is where you get screwed. Its an odd ball .723" knurl. And you can't get a 9/16" stud with that knurl. So, you have to either buy a set of adapters that will bolt to the stock 1/2" studs and convert over to 9/16", or you have to redrill the hub and rotor for new studs. We were in a bind so we had them drilled out and put 1/2" spacers between the wheel and rotor. 3/4" would be ideal, but I think the smallest adapter you will find is like 1" or 1 1/4".

NadirPoint 04-16-2010 04:00 PM

1.25" without shaving the studs.

1993firstgennewbie 04-16-2010 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by 93smoker (Post 536279)
I don't think they will work as the stud size on the newer trucks is also larger!

stud size on newer trucks are actually a bit smaller i think 1/2 inch and my 93 has 16mm studs or just a little bit over 5/8 i put 03 rims on mine so i know first hand just fyi:c:

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Originally Posted by 1993firstgennewbie (Post 539152)
stud size on newer trucks are actually a bit smaller i think 1/2 inch and my 93 has 16mm studs or just a little bit over 5/8 i put 03 rims on mine so i know first hand just fyi:c:

https://www.dieselbombers.com/member...ually-rims.jpgall black

https://www.dieselbombers.com/member...rome-black.jpg or chrome just depends on how im feeling that day i need the center caps tho

NadirPoint 04-17-2010 08:10 AM

1stGen 1-ton = 9/16, 3/4-ton = 1/2

All 2nd Gen and later are 9/16 stud.

921stgen 04-18-2010 02:45 PM

My 1st gen W350 dually has 5/8 studs.

NadirPoint 04-18-2010 03:08 PM

Forgot about the dualies. They probably all have 5/8.

lovetofly65 09-16-2015 09:29 PM

Hey buddy, been looking for some good info on a 2wd with 3rd gen, you can find a bunch of 4wd! SO, i see you added 1/2"spacers on the front. What about the rear? I heard that they fit no problem but they need spacers/adaptors for them to look right. they look tightly tucked with out them?? Knowing what you know now, what would you suggest for the best method of getting those wheels on a 2wd D250? I am at that cross and would APPRECIATE your info. Great looking truck! THANKS!!

Jeff -



Originally Posted by Diesel Nut (Post 537732)
I have 3rd gen wheels on my 91.5 -

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e4...k/S6300443.jpg

What I learned doing it :argh:

Basically, the rear end is easy. You can swap out the 1/2" studs for 9/16" studs. They are a standard D60 style stud with a .625" knurl. The front is where you get screwed. Its an odd ball .723" knurl. And you can't get a 9/16" stud with that knurl. So, you have to either buy a set of adapters that will bolt to the stock 1/2" studs and convert over to 9/16", or you have to redrill the hub and rotor for new studs. We were in a bind so we had them drilled out and put 1/2" spacers between the wheel and rotor. 3/4" would be ideal, but I think the smallest adapter you will find is like 1" or 1 1/4".



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