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tltruckparts 01-16-2010 01:08 AM

2wd getrag VS 4wd getrag
 
well i just bought a complete running 91 for 1000 bucks with a flatbed and a BRAND NEW getrag 5 speed in it. its a 2wd though. can i make it 4wd by changing the output shaft on it like some trannys, or is it stuck as a 2wd?

seandonato73 01-16-2010 01:51 AM

i kinda think you can

tltruckparts 01-16-2010 01:54 AM

do you know if the tailshaft on the 2wd comes off and you can swap out output shafts?

sneed1rr 01-16-2010 02:31 AM

I dont think the tail shaft comes off of those

RSWORDS 01-16-2010 08:18 AM

Yeah it can be done.

tltruckparts 01-16-2010 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by RSWORDS (Post 472621)
Yeah it can be done.

what all does it involve do you know by chance?

RSWORDS 01-16-2010 03:14 PM

tail shaft and housing I believe. Never done it but I know people have.

sneed1rr 01-16-2010 06:40 PM

You can swap the internals into a 4wd housing. but im pretty sure just the tail section does not come off, so all you would keep would be your bellhousing and internals from your 2wd tranny

welderboy250 01-16-2010 08:20 PM

the tail definitely comes off, i know cause i rebuilt mine. i also think the mainshaft is different as that is the one that is also the output shaft. the change would involve almost completely disassembling the trany but i dont see y it couldnt be done

tltruckparts 01-16-2010 11:42 PM

oh ya thats way too much work. forget about that idea lol

seandonato73 01-17-2010 12:08 AM

at least you got a bunch of spare parts:lol:

tltruckparts 01-17-2010 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by seandonato73 (Post 473190)
at least you got a bunch of spare parts:lol:

you have no idea. i got 4 acres worth of parts. i got 4 1st gen dodges here and 3 of the 84-97 fords. i got a bronco comin in tomorrow and i pick up another first gen on monday. im glad my wife lets me do this crap shes all game for it. we got trannys in our dining room haha

captain_stabbin 01-17-2010 12:40 AM

lmao

welderboy250 01-17-2010 09:54 AM

i wish i lived next door to u

tltruckparts 01-17-2010 02:06 PM

well if you ever need any used parts feel free to let me know

Diesel-N-Dust 01-17-2010 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by welderboy250 (Post 473382)
i wish i lived next door to u

No you dont. Your property value would drop like a lead balloon.

tltruckparts 01-17-2010 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Diesel-N-Dust (Post 473633)
No you dont. Your property value would drop like a lead balloon.

dont act if you dont know. you cant see anything from my neighbors house everything is stored. and my 30 acre parcel doesnt know the word property value drop where were at.

seandonato73 01-17-2010 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by tltruckparts (Post 473660)
dont act if you dont know. you cant see anything from my neighbors house everything is stored. and my 30 acre parcel doesnt know the word property value drop where were at.

no i wish i lived next door to you..... around here everything has to be inspected and licenced, just for it to sit for a little. don't matter what it is. and the neibors can't seem to keep out of your buisiness. jerks!

tltruckparts 01-17-2010 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by seandonato73 (Post 473877)
and the neibors can't seem to keep out of your buisiness. jerks!

i dont have neighbors:w2:

i have (A) neighbor. and she collects horses and 67-72 chevy parts

Budgreen 01-18-2010 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by tltruckparts (Post 473525)
well if you ever need any used parts feel free to let me know

do you possibly have a front output flange for a 205 that doesn't have all the splines ripped out like mine does?

tltruckparts 01-18-2010 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Budgreen (Post 474084)
do you possibly have a front output flange for a 205 that doesn't have all the splines ripped out like mine does?

i have a very ice condition complete 205 from an auto tranny. but i dont want to pull the flange off otherwise the transfer case is then useless

Budgreen 01-19-2010 07:31 AM

it was worth the ask. haha

I have a spare case from a chevy, maybe i'll just swap the front output from it if I can't find one.

tltruckparts 01-19-2010 11:36 AM

thats what i was going to recomend. i have chevy flanges everywhere and id assume theyd bolt right on

seandonato73 01-19-2010 10:47 PM

they should... i put one off a dodge on my friends chev mud truck the other day, it bolted on fine.

Budgreen 01-20-2010 08:40 AM

the dodge flange is like 29 spline..

the chevy one I have uses a yoke and it's like 10 spline.

seandonato73 01-20-2010 10:55 PM

oh that sucks bud.... my sapre t-case is off a old dodge gasser and it went on a 79 chev, maby the years make some sort of difference.

tltruckparts 01-20-2010 11:08 PM

dodge flanges are only a 29 on the manual on an auto transmission transfer case its a 23 spline

welderboy250 01-21-2010 07:26 AM

i think ur talkin about the 205 input shaft there. both output shaft on all the 205s behind the cummins should be the same.

Budgreen 01-21-2010 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by welderboy250 (Post 476609)
i think ur talkin about the 205 input shaft there. both output shaft on all the 205s behind the cummins should be the same.

just some info (from high impact)

The Dodge NP205 transfer cases are mostly an 8 bolt pattern like the early Chevy. Some late units had the 6 bolt circular pattern. These units all have a right hand drop. Most are supplied with a 23 spline male input shaft and used with a coupler.



29 Spline Dodge: There is a fairly rare 29 spline NP205 used in Dodge trucks behind the Getrag 5 speed. The NP205 used behind automatics are all 23 spline, even in the 1 Ton Cummins apps.


as far as inputs go.. but I see no output info for dodge

seandonato73 01-21-2010 10:11 PM

don't know what to tell you budgreen:argh:

pewder 01-21-2010 11:06 PM

tltruckparts, looks like I need to go on a vacation, :hellox:to your place to buy some parts. :choochoo:ha ha

I have a first gen cummins and so does my dad, both have the same problems, both auto's :td:and both 2wd :td:ha ha. And need to bring my dad with me so he can go to your neighbors to pick up some parts for his 72 Jimmy.

:humm:Or just do like seandonato73 and be your neighbor :tu:ha ha

tltruckparts 01-21-2010 11:23 PM

well im glad i got some friends on here haha it gets kinda lonely where were at. there is no one around at all and with this storm were gettin i cant even go outside!

seandonato73 01-22-2010 11:28 PM

hey it really is too bad you live clear across the country or i would be your niebor in a heart beat, my niebors just bitched me out cas i got home at 12:00, i woke the kids up.??? it's friday night and i normally get in much alter then this. don't get it same loud truck i've been driving for three years now. why am i only waking the kids up now??:argh::argh::argh: stupid neibors

tltruckparts 01-22-2010 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by seandonato73 (Post 477830)
hey it really is too bad you live clear across the country or i would be your niebor in a heart beat, my niebors just bitched me out cas i got home at 12:00, i woke the kids up.??? it's friday night and i normally get in much alter then this. don't get it same loud truck i've been driving for three years now. why am i only waking the kids up now??:argh::argh::argh: stupid neibors

you dont want to live in california trust me. luckily im in a rural area but everywhere else sucks major balls

connieg0425 07-28-2010 09:14 PM

So maybe you know I'm new to this world building my first truck ever.... Taking a cummins dodge 1993 turbo diesel the whole engine out of a dodge flat bed. Not sure were to find the shut off and where all the other sensors are. It has a bad ass getrag 5 spd on the back of it. So any suggestions to what I need to do. Im putting this into a 1971 chevy custom body short bed swamp bug truck. Any advice?:s:


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