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cumminsboy92 06-20-2008 03:58 PM

Auto Or Stick
 
i recently picked up a 1991 dodge 250 4x4 with a bad auto tranny. i was wondering if i should just replace the stock tranny or switch it to stick. any input

wildbill 06-20-2008 04:23 PM

Depends on what your preferences are. By that I mean, do a significant amount of towing or is it just a daily driver. Switching from one to the other isn't difficult, just takes a little time.

cumminsboy92 06-20-2008 07:36 PM

it would be doing some towing and hauling as well as being my daily driver

AF1CUMMINS 06-20-2008 07:41 PM

I know it may be apples and oranges but I did it on my '83 F-150 and it involved a lot. New steering column, transfer case, which meant different drive shafts, pedal assembly, slave cylinder. Lotta work man, might be easier and cheaper to just fix it and trade for a manual if that's what you really want.

MDLP412 06-21-2008 08:34 AM

as for 1st gens i would go stick. just not enough upgrades to make those older autos hold up if your gonna add more power or tow anything.

Diesel Nut 06-21-2008 09:18 AM

Big problem with the 1st gen autos is they do not have a lock up converter. If you found a smokin deal on a 47rh you can mount that up with minimal trouble, have a more durable transmission with a lock up converter.

How heavy will you be towing?

smoke' em 06-24-2008 12:03 AM

go with a nv4500 you'll never look back:U:

2500HeavyDuty 06-24-2008 12:04 AM

STIIIIICK!

Johnny Cetane 06-24-2008 12:11 AM

If you're going to keep it and work it I'd get a stick. As said above a NV4500 would be a great one to put in. You'll need to do something with lengthening/shortening driveshafts, mating the t-case up, cross members, shifter, etc. It will be a lot of work and I would bet you'll get $3500-$4000 wrapped up into it pretty quick unless you could find everything at the junk yard.

Uncle Bubba 06-24-2008 12:52 AM

There's plenty of kits out there to do this with. Most of them I have seen are complete with all the parts. The only thing left for you to do is get your drive shafts lengthened and shortened. Most any machine shop can do this for you but you have to wait till you have it all installed so you have your exact measurements.

dukeboy_318 06-27-2008 01:53 PM

or you can simply try this kit here. as for the swap, you wont have to change anything not transmission related. thats one nice thing about dodge. i know when we swapped a 94 12 v into an 81 ford f350, we had to change everything under the hood, even had to notch the frame to allow the bellhousing to clear enough to run the clutch linkage. course after the fact we found the following kit on the internet.

NV4500 5 Speed HD Transmission Conversion Kit Dodge, Jeep - GM Pickup Truck

timberfalls 08-29-2008 12:50 PM

Get the manual you'll never go back... I have had both and the auto tranny lost a lot of power in the drivetrain greater control and better mileage thats just my .02

Old Pigiron 08-30-2008 08:29 AM

I have a 91 with the A518 auto. I would go with a stick if I had to do it over again. I pull bobcats around with it and also use it for plowing in the winter, and although its still running fine, I feel like its a time bomb, waiting to blow when I work it. However, I have a long commute everyday going to my real job, and it's all city driving, so the auto is great for that, plus I get to drive with a coffee in one hand.

bigreddog 08-31-2008 11:29 AM

I wouldn't have anything other than a stick, autos are just for OLD guys that pull bobcats around town:pca1:


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