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Chevy355mark 10-03-2010 08:39 PM

just got a cummins, have some questions
 
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well i just purchased my first diesel truck a few days ago, its a 94 single cab long bed with a 4.5" lift on 35s, 4x4, 5 speed. the truck has a boost and egt guage, but it doesnt smoke much so im not to sure on the state of tune the injectionpump is in, im sure somebody has turned it up in some way a little bit, the wastegate on the turbo is completely locked out and it makes about 32psi.

so i guess my main questions i want answered are these, first is my turbo at a safe level of boost or is the turbo going to fall apart? the compressor wheel has just about no play in it at all, its in very good shape but i dont know how long the wastegate has been maxed out for.

will turning the star wheel up make me loose my mpg? i know what it does, i know it adds more pre-boost fueling, but i cant help but think that when im cruising down the road at 45mph, im not making any boost, so am i just running the truck richer wasting fuel, or am i going to need less pedal to cruise making my mpg stay the same?

is there any way i can add more timing without having to buy any special tools?

and my last question is about the killer dowel pin, i know how to do the job, but i was just wanting your guys opinion on weather its easier to remove the radiator and everything to gain more room or just work around it? it seams like theres not much room between the timing cover and radiator.

a few of you guys have probably already seen it in my other thread but i added a few pics of the truck for those who havnt.

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monster12valve 10-04-2010 12:31 PM

32 psi on you stock hx35 is fine:tu: you may wanna read the afc tuning sticky at the top of the 12v bomb section... if i were you i would go through and re tune the afc the way you want it to be. the starwheel will give you a puff of black when you stomp it from a stop ( when turbo hasnt made boost) the best thing to do is to see what plate is in it now. and if the afc has been modded at all. then you can go through and tune it the way you want with the plate you want... i run no plate and i like it. hope this helps:c:

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KDP job is easy.. just take your time... and you need the tool to set the timing.. it is a must to b sure ur accurate.. and sweet truck by the way!!!!:choochoo:

94 5 speed 10-04-2010 09:12 PM

i just did the kdp this weekend and it was very easy just took time and we didnt take the rad out and you dont need to unless you want more room

tiremann9669 10-04-2010 09:26 PM

I also did my kdp with the radiator in. :c:

Dr. Evil 10-04-2010 09:30 PM

Theres no need to remove the rad or anything else other than the fan and balancer

cumminsp12v 10-04-2010 09:37 PM

will turning the star wheel make you lose mpg at all?

tiremann9669 10-04-2010 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by Dr. Evil (Post 631493)
Theres no need to remove the rad or anything else other than the fan and balancer

You'll want to remove the shroud also wich will require removing the overflow bottle, and washer jug, :c:

12vcummins96 10-04-2010 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by cumminsp12v (Post 631495)
will turning the star wheel make you lose mpg at all?

not if you dont have a heavy foot

Chevy355mark 10-05-2010 12:01 AM


Originally Posted by 12vcummins96 (Post 631518)
not if you dont have a heavy foot

but isnt pre-boost fueling pre boost fueling? when your crusing down the road you are not making boost, so are you wasting fuel?

the previous owner said it has no fuel plate, i didnt think that was possible, i just thought he didnt know what hes talking about. whats up with running no plate, is this just the absolute maximum?

FastCR 10-05-2010 01:54 AM

removing the fuel plate makes the pedal control fueling to whatever the pump will allow without rpm input.
The AFC adjusts how much boost affects the amount of pedal input to fueling vs boost. It will hurt mileage if you push the pedal down to make smoke with no boost. Some people gut the AFC and make it just pedal input, some people fine tune it and make it work how its supposed to but with performance in mind.
That being said, no plate and star wheel cranked has made smoke hard to control when you have to roll off a red light with a cop watching you.

The star wheel adjusts preload on a spring that holds tension on a diaphram that has boost pushing on it. So the more you load the spring with the wheel, the less the fueling depends on boost.

captain_stabbin 10-05-2010 05:11 AM

im gettin 22mpg with no plate!

Chevy355mark 10-05-2010 11:44 PM


Originally Posted by FastCR (Post 631627)
removing the fuel plate makes the pedal control fueling to whatever the pump will allow without rpm input.
The AFC adjusts how much boost affects the amount of pedal input to fueling vs boost. It will hurt mileage if you push the pedal down to make smoke with no boost. Some people gut the AFC and make it just pedal input, some people fine tune it and make it work how its supposed to but with performance in mind.
That being said, no plate and star wheel cranked has made smoke hard to control when you have to roll off a red light with a cop watching you.

The star wheel adjusts preload on a spring that holds tension on a diaphram that has boost pushing on it. So the more you load the spring with the wheel, the less the fueling depends on boost.

well right now i have no problems with pedal feel, and it doesnt smoke much at all... however, i plan on turning up the star wheel tomorrow, once the star wheel is turned up is this when im going to start to notice a lack of control over wasted fuel? what i mean by that is am i going to be able to make a normal acceleration without smoking or is it going to be the same deal just with more smoke when i really lay into it? does a 0 fuel plate make as much power as no fuel plate in a more controlled manner or is there simply no more power then running no plate? basically should i order the 0 fuel plate or not!? tough choice...

FastCR 10-05-2010 11:58 PM

0 is ground flat, supposed to work the same way as no plate.

Chevy355mark 10-10-2010 02:26 AM

turns out the star wheel was pretty much maxed out, i got a few more turns on it and slid the housing all the way forward(it pretty much already was) and called it good. i dont have any problems with the way it runs and im getting 14.5mpg around town on 35" tires.


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