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Beast2B 12-08-2009 10:09 AM

sometimes she starts, sometimes she just cranks
 
OK, my son's truck is a 96 12v with 200k on the clock. when you go to start the truck (hot or cold engine, warm or cold ambient temps) it either cranks and cranks or it starts right up. no pattern, but it has never started after cranking for a while. if it cranks more than a couple times you know it ain't lighting off! is there a relay or solenoid or something that is involved in getting fuel flowing when cranking? we jumped the truck to my truck to make sure it had plenty of battery just in case, but it was no different....
any ideas?

PhilipR 12-08-2009 10:11 AM

Is the shut down relay working correctly? It might be getting bad and not pulling up all the way. It's on the back of the P-pump. Try turning th ekey on and pulling the lever up and then start the truck. If the boot is gone dirt can get in there a wreck the solenoid.

12vcummins96 12-08-2009 10:15 AM

i would say the shut down solinoid as well

PhilipR 12-08-2009 10:17 AM

This link might help:

Diesel Hard Start Diagnosis

rkadcock 12-08-2009 10:48 AM

Their is a relay and if it is going out it'll crank and crank but it won't start because its not getting any fuel, but it could be the solinoid as well. But the relay is about $20 and is a cheap fix

PhilipR 12-08-2009 11:08 AM

It's got to be a 70 amp relay IIRC.

monster12valve 12-08-2009 02:28 PM

i agree with solinoid

rkadcock 12-08-2009 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Dusterb318 (Post 447226)
It's got to be a 70 amp relay IIRC.

It is 70 amp relay. I just did mine about a month ago. You can get them from puredieselpower.com

12valvetater 12-08-2009 08:11 PM

Get a lawn mower cable.

tower_ofpower 12-08-2009 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by rkadcock (Post 447498)
It is 70 amp relay. I just did mine about a month ago. You can get them from puredieselpower.com

you absolutely sure? wiring diagrams we have, have it labeled as a 50A relay. either way; a run of the mill automotive replacement relay wont cut it being they are typically 30A. dont bother getting it from a parts store; it only comes in a set of two (fuel heater and shut down solenoid relay) and will run you 68 bucks and up n good luck finding one. wish we would have know about the individual relays available online b4 hand. its either the relay or the solenoid. others have already described how to eliminate the solenoid from being the problem. good luck :tu:


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