Super B
 

i have come across a bd super B turbo and was wondering if anybody else is running one. and if so do you like it , i can get it for a really good price brand new:U:

I have heard nuttin but good bout em:U:

me too , i can get it for under a g note and i think this would help me towing my trailer. correct me if im wrong but this turbo should reduce my egts, along with alittle more ballz for going up good size grades
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Is it a regualar Super B or a Super B Special thers a difference don't know much about but the special flows more and makes more power.

But like stated I have heard nothing but good about them. :U:

IIRC ,

Super B is good for 425 HP , the Super B Special 525 ,

I have the Super B and Love it !

5shifter makes 553 on a hybrid 35

but i hear the super b is a good turbo to

yeah it is just a regular super B but thats ok because im not looking to making the kind of power that the special can handle. but under a 1000 bucks, i think thats a pretty good price though, eh?

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hey there diesel minded, did you notice a big differance between the stock turbo when you were loaded or unloaded

Are the turbos on the Super B off sized so that you get good low end but still have the top end power of a bigger turbo?

What about a Super B Special?? Who knows what mods are needed to run a Super B Special on a 12V?Or is the special for race only and not a daily driver.

I had a Super B on my 95. It didn't impress me, but it wasn't a bad turbo at all. I just thought it would cool me off more than it did. I had the 14cm housing, and it spooled as good as stock, and stayed efficient a bit more than the stocker, but it only cooled me off a hundred degrees while towing. That was a 4x4 Automatic, but I can't imagine it would be much better on my stick shift.

Its a good turbo, but don't expect it to make big HP.

yeh, im more looking for to build a good solid tow rig for my 32ft travel trailer. thats why when this turbo came about i wanted to get some feed back on it b 4 i bought it. my trailer wt. is about 9000lbs and when the 12 valve was in stock form it did not do that bad , i was just looking to get up to speed a bit quicker ( highway ) and for going up the bigger hills keeping speed not droppin 10-15mph.

A set of 181,191 DV will really help spool that turbo up also...Good upgrade for our 160 and 175 pumps...A friend sold me some laser cuts and they work well in the smaller pumps.Not a wise upgrade to use LC in the 215 pump....too hot..

I believe its just a modified s300g. The s362's seem to support a more in that upper 400 to mid 500 range. Thats not a bad price for a brand new charger. You will need an hx40 style downpipe for it. And you will probably want more fuel to spool it. Turn up your pump a bit more and throw in some sticks, and that should be a fun turbo to have. I'd limit yourself to about 40psi boost if you're not going to go into the head at all for studs and such.
Sean

Be careful there. You'll be able to spool that turbo with the fuel you can make from your pump with just a plate and some AFC mods. More fuel than that and you're wastegate's gonna be open a lot. DO NOT GET LC DV Valves... You'll regret it big time. Biggest I would go is 191's.

The S300 just isn't enough of a step up from the stocker to be worthwhile IMO. For you an HX Hybrid 35/40 would probably work better, or perhaps a straight HX40, not quite as efficient, but the size will make up for it with a 60mm wheel.

Like I said...LC work way better in the small pumps.If it's to much fuel I ajusted the plate position and twicked the AFC....I found the EGT didn't change at all from the 131 DV and LC.I would of put in 181 or 191 but got a good deal on the LC and I was able to try them before I both them....Again its a different story for the 215 and180 pumps...they will run hot.Would like to get input from other members who installed LC in the smaller pump only.

I just pulled a set out of a 94 that was running way too hot and smoking like a freight train. I tried everything, from the AFC, to the Plate, to the wastegate, and it didn't change anything. Even with his tiny injectors it was too much fuel. I don't like them. They are really intended for pullers and racers only. 191's will flow more fuel than most people can use anyways, I had them in my 98 5-spd with an HX55 turbo and still ran hot with 370 EDM's and flow tested pump. They only gained about 40HP over the 181's anyways, and there was no difference with the stock turbo, it just ran hot and smoked more. :argh:

Thanks for the input...I guess every truck is different and you did the comparson on both types of pumps.The only change I made to my truck is the orginal went bad and I never had the LC in that one..I placed them in the rebuilt 175 I got.Who knows,maybe my rebuild was calibrated for less fuel flow...:argh:

Yeah, that crap happens. I've just seen a lot of guys hurt stuff running too big a valve, they figure if 181 is good, and 191 is better, then a full cut, or laser cut must be the best! And it simply isn't true. Keep in mind, flowing too much fuel for the amount of air that you have skyrockets cylinder pressures pre-detonation. When that happens you're looking at HG failures. Ask me how I know...:ouch:

so instead of the super b should i go on the hunt for a hx 35/40 hybrid.......or can i make my turbo into a 35/40...... if so who or how would i do this... sorry if this is a dumb ? but im still learnin :sen:

Well it depends on what you want to spend. Personally, I'd just build a hybrid. You'll need to find an HX40 thats in decent shape, the wheel and compressor housing really is all you need. All you have to do is swap the wheel and the compressor housing, but you'll want to get it balanced too (at least I would, the things spinning over 100k RPM's).

Actually, I'm not sure how you'd mount the compressor housing since you have a WH1C (it uses a ring to secure the compressor housing, not bolts like the HX series turbo's). Maybe an older 12V owner (wait, an owner of an older 12V) will chime in.

[QUOTE=MotorOilMcCall;255569]Well it depends on what you want to spend. Personally, I'd just build a hybrid. You'll need to find an HX40 thats in decent shape, the wheel and compressor housing really is all you need. All you have to do is swap the wheel and the compressor housing, but you'll want to get it balanced too (at least I would, the things spinning over 100k RPM's).

I was looking at a HX40 also,but as we know the shafts break if you bark them to many times...Where would be the best place to order a new shaft/wheel and housing..??

Thats a load of BS... I know plenty of guys running HX40's, and of them all, 1 has busted a shaft, and it was actually just a bend. All these guys sayin they bust shafts are overthinking things. Yeah, its the same shaft as the smaller 35, but how many 35's have you seen busted? Thats how strong they are.

Really...I'm never to old to learn..Was told the HX40 bust shafts....Thanks now I know also.:U:

I think the Turbo manufacturers just spread that rumor to sell turbo's, lol. Anything can break...

BTW, eBay has had some guys selling "Super B" turbo's for cheap... Be careful, most of these use the smaller center sections with the smaller shaft, and poor oiling. They work, but they aren't nearly as strong as the real deal from BD. Just a heads up, I think most guys assume an S300 is an S300, but there are some big differences. If you question it, ask for the serial number, then shoot BD or HTT an email, they'll tell you what turbo it is.

so just a straight hx 40 would be to much for what im lookin for out of my truck?

i run a super B and i absolutely love it

I run a super B and have no problems. Cools things fairly well and has good power. It is nothing crazy. The turbo performs well pulling which is what I wanted.