transmission how much?
i'm thinking about having my tranny rebuilt this summer.
i'm planning on #10 plate (might go a bit bigger?) 370 injectors,hx40, 4" exhaust aem intake and a boost elbow. how much should i be looking at spending for a built up auto for my 94? whats done to make them built up?? |
Probably right around $4500 with Goerends. I would go with there trans, billet input and billet flexplate. That should hold what you are wanting.goerend
Andy |
+1 on Dave Goerend.... you can click on my pic in my sig and it'll take you to his site..... I bought mine through Garrett @ www.puredieselpower.com
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gees wouldn't it be cheeper to convet to a nv4500?
i was hoping more along the line of $2000 but no more then $3000 |
Base trans for 400hp is $3250 plus sipping each way. Then I would recomend a billet input for $650, and a billet flexplate for like $450. BD has the cheapest flexplate. Dave sells an upgraded flex for $150 I was told.
Andy |
i figured i would have the local tranny guy rebuild it.
i get a deal ;) we own a small wrecker service and we take a few vehicles to him. so he treats us pretty good. i just havn't called yet to see how good.. but from what i'm seeing for prices. seems like i would be better off converting to a standard. i'm sure i can convert the rig over for less then $2000 |
Well I'm converting mine to an NV4500 but I got a heck of a deal on everything. I'll have very little into everything and that is including a slightly used Southbend.
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Originally Posted by bow2no1
(Post 19769)
i'm thinking about having my tranny rebuilt this summer.
i'm planning on #10 plate (might go a bit bigger?) 370 injectors,hx40, 4" exhaust aem intake and a boost elbow. how much should i be looking at spending for a built up auto for my 94? whats done to make them built up?? As I step up for a shamless plug :w2: I have a complete BD RE47 for sale |
Originally Posted by Ratsun
(Post 19798)
As I step up for a shamless plug :w2:
I have a complete BD 47RE for sale Fixed.... 94 IIRC had a 47RH ..... call Dave and talk prices with him and tell him what you are going to do with the truck....HP and workin' it wise..... i think the base price is $2850 with a single disc converter.... and with that being said his warranty and customer service is what i paid for.... the high quality transmission, converter and billet flexplate were the icing on the cake..... you can go big and spend $5-6K like i did..... i wanted it done once and done right..... how long after that NV4500 swap will the clutch go out or will 5th gear fail..... then the labor to remove it and down time...... Dave offers a 100K mile limited warranty on all his products and is the only manufacture out there that offers a limited LIFETIME warranty on the tripple disc converter..... just some words of thought...... |
i have fixed manual transmission. i haven't even opened a auto.
i have dealt with a whole bunch to T5's personally i prefer a manual any way. i only considered a built auto cuz i figured the conversion would be a pain in the butt also having to track down all the parts necessary. i only paid $3500 for my truck. it was to good to pass up. other wise i would have waited for a good rig with a manual trans to come around. don't get me wrong i'm sure he builds a great trans. but with shipping cost, core charge and cost of the trans it self. a manual trans is starting to look pretty good. i'm on a limited budget. i have a 86 gsxr 750, 81 cb750f super sport and a 12' speed boat with trailer and 85 evinrude. i figured i should be able to sell them to buy a good trans set up. i bought them all pacifically to resell. |
Originally Posted by bow2no1
(Post 19820)
don't get me wrong i'm sure he builds a great trans.
but with shipping cost, core charge and cost of the trans it self. a manual trans is starting to look pretty good. i'm on a limited budget. |
Lots of good info here guys, but we really need to know the primary use of the truck...ie race/tow/daily driver, and the expected hp/torque he is going to achieve as an end result. I personally lean toward the NV due to its ability to be streetable/raceable/towable and from what I've seen pretty indestructible. Everyone keep adding to this thread because this will help others make the right decision.
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true DD, i don't race never have. maybe give the occasional duramax a run for his money ;)
mostly work truck i have a 20' tandem wheel trailer i tow from time to time. i have never done 1 burn out with my rig. mostly cuz i'm afraid something will break. the previous owner used the rig for his boat yard towing boats around. so i have been thinking how much longer will my trans last? i doesn't slip or anything. but it's original trans with 180,000 miles. so i figure somthing bound to happen. |
Originally Posted by DangerousDuramax
(Post 19830)
Lots but we really need to know the primary use of the truck...ie race/tow/daily driver, and the expected hp/torque he is going to achieve as an end result.
the 94 had a 160hp pump.... so with that plate and injectors and turbo he should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 225-275HP .... mine with 370's, 191 delivery valves and an HTT64/14 and a 180 pump and a 100 plate i made 358/727......
Originally Posted by bow2no1
(Post 19834)
so i have been thinking how much longer will my trans last? i doesn't slip or anything. but it's original trans with 180,000 miles.
so i figure somthing bound to happen. |
Originally Posted by Benjamin
(Post 19837)
from looking at his list of hopefull mods above...
the 94 had a 160hp pump.... so with that plate and injectors and turbo he should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 225-275HP .... Dave by far has the best price on a built trans. and if I was on a tight budget he'd be on the top of my list. As for doing a NV4500/5600/G56 swap would still take a fair chunk of change, plus the fabrication/swapping of parts and just the general time it would take you to do it. |
here's another shameless plug,
i've got a 94 with a freshly rebuilt 5 speed,(remanufactured by blumenthals an OEM factory rebuilder) factory tranny lost it's 5th gear.... you can have the whole truck for 2K.... then you'll have all the parts to convert your auto.... and you can drive it back to maine.....it gets about 24 mpg.... |
if you was a little closer i would take you up on that maj.
cummins parts trucks are few and far between up here. i might be able to gte some parts in mass. i know a guy down there that gets some good stuff.. besides that i can get alot of the parts right off ebay. or advertise a wanted ad for complete conversion kit. |
DTT!!! around 5K:sen:
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Originally Posted by ndurbin
(Post 19840)
Your a bit low there..........I dyno'd 328/765 with a #10, 370s, 15.5* timing, AFE PG7, and a straight pipe all on a 160 pump.
Dave by far has the best price on a built trans. and if I was on a tight budget he'd be on the top of my list. As for doing a NV4500/5600/G56 swap would still take a fair chunk of change, plus the fabrication/swapping of parts and just the general time it would take you to do it. that wasn't included in his initial list..... neither was the air intake..... my timing is at stock right now.... or wherever it is... i know i should be getting better numbers than i did..... |
beat me to it warren. i've been considering the same thing. mine shifts ok but i know the TC is not wut it should be even with only 72k on the whole truck. i've been tossing the idea of rebuild or NV swap. the only real advantage to an auto, IMHO as usual, is that a built auto will smoke a manual in a race. other than that i don't see much of a real benefit to having one.
i'd like to see some real numbers as to wut it'd cost to swap to a manual VS. wut it'd cost to build a decent auto. |
The 5th gear problem has been fixed up now by a new part developed and patented by Dan at http://www.quad4x4.com/ He is probably one of the best in the country for these manual trannies. If your serious about this conversion he sells his own rebuilt trannies and the complete kits to do the conversions with. They are not cheap but from the prices I'm seein here for the auto rebuilds his cost is nothin and a good South Bend clutch will last forever as long as your not usin for sled pulls. Ive got a good 150,000 on mine and I do alot of heavy pullin with this truck. I can't even make this clutch slip yet unless I'm doin something really stupid.
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Well i got a #5 plate.
Im getting my tranny rebuilt right now and he said it would hold 500+hp, and he quoted me around 4200.
Originally Posted by bow2no1
(Post 19769)
i'm thinking about having my tranny rebuilt this summer.
i'm planning on #10 plate (might go a bit bigger?) 370 injectors,hx40, 4" exhaust aem intake and a boost elbow. how much should i be looking at spending for a built up auto for my 94? whats done to make them built up?? |
Forget the billet shafts unless you are going to race, or sled. I just had mine done for $3200 by my local Trans shop with warranty and a real person 10 miles away that will be standing by the build. Time and miles will only tell. Running what is in my sig plus a 3000GSK goes in this week.
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Re: transmission how much?
I would do a billet input shaft.
Luke |
Originally Posted by Diesel Dawgs Performance
(Post 764014)
I would do a billet input shaft.
Luke Better to have it and not need it,than need it and not have it. |
I do quotes for Brockport transmission, i had them build my last 47re and my current truck will be getting a 5disc TC installed there soon. Located just outside of Rochester NY, i know the owner personally and my truck will never go to any other transmission shop
The level one transmission would be a nice set up for you including a billet single disc converter and 3 year unlimited mileage warranty for under $2,700 I would be more than happy to fax or mail a quote to you for level 1/2/3 transmissions, i could maybe even give it to you in person as i will be in York Beach the week after next, thanks, -Jared |
swaping to a manual trans will cost just the same as getting your auto rebuilt
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