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Cummins_Power_13 01-10-2014 11:37 AM

Fuel Plate/Star Wheel
 
So I just bought a 98 12v Cummins, and I wanna add more power, as well as some smoke. And I've quickly learned how to do it and what to adjust. Question is, should I wait until I purchase Gauges, or will not have an affect. I'm purchasing gauges regardless, but if I don't have to wait, I wanna adjust them. Comments?

12vcumminspower7 01-10-2014 01:20 PM

If you want smoke crank the star wheel all the way toward the motor and turn the smoke screw all the way in!Its not going to raise your egt's cause its pre-boost,but mpgs drop a lil but barely noticeable!When you get gauges remove the plate and get some 370 marine injectors and you'll have all the smoke you've ever wanted!:tu::rocking::c:

4x4manonbroke 01-10-2014 02:37 PM

yeah ...... 370's and a 100plate .... stock timing ..... smoke like a train ..... and could really mess up ur valves and melt a few things along the way ....:td:

94 12valve 01-11-2014 07:53 AM

your right it will smoke like crazy if you do that ... and that honda civic next to you will blow your doors off when you try to race it :argh:

the.beard 01-11-2014 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by 12vcumminspower7 (Post 1043530)
If you want smoke crank the star wheel all the way toward the motor and turn the smoke screw all the way in!Its not going to raise your egt's cause its pre-boost,but mpgs drop a lil but barely noticeable!When you get gauges remove the plate and get some 370 marine injectors and you'll have all the smoke you've ever wanted!:tu::rocking::c:

Not true. Especially in high-load situations at low RPM. If he's asking how to make smoke, he'll probably figure out how to dump soot by lugging it and end up melting a piston, cracking a head or grenading his turbo.

Get your gauges first, my man. Once you have them installed, focus on making power. The smoke will come (I promise) and your truck won't get monkey-stomped by the first V6 Mustang that rolls up next to you at a stop light. :td:

12vcumminspower7 01-11-2014 05:51 PM

I haven't an egt problem and I haul a 15k 5th wheel up some massive hills!
For some reason it's hard to get it over 1200* when hauling the trailer?:humm:

4x4manonbroke 01-11-2014 09:55 PM

what Hp is your engine ?

and where is your timing and or have you adjusted it ?

what turbo is on the engine ?

anymods ... we need to know so we can give you best world class advise here ... :c:

97cummins 01-13-2014 12:37 AM

Gauges first, then take care of the killer dowel pin.

Cummins_Power_13 01-14-2014 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by the.beard (Post 1043675)
Not true. Especially in high-load situations at low RPM. If he's asking how to make smoke, he'll probably figure out how to dump soot by lugging it and end up melting a piston, cracking a head or grenading his turbo.

Get your gauges first, my man. Once you have them installed, focus on making power. The smoke will come (I promise) and your truck won't get monkey-stomped by the first V6 Mustang that rolls up next to you at a stop light. :td:

Yes, I really want more power out of my truck, and if more power is going to make more smoke, where do you recommend I start for increasing my horsepower so I don't get shown up by that V6 Mustang :humm:

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Originally Posted by 4x4manonbroke (Post 1043713)
what Hp is your engine ?

and where is your timing and or have you adjusted it ?

what turbo is on the engine ?

anymods ... we need to know so we can give you best world class advise here ... :c:

I haven't done any adjusting for my timing. I have the 5.9l Engine in my Cummins Sport with an auto transmission. I have an aftermarket air intake. As far as that, that is all the knowledge I have on this Cummins.. I can tell you that my torque isn't very strong on take off.

12vcumminspower7 01-14-2014 11:40 AM

Gotta open her up for air,then add minor fuel!
To much HP and TQ and you'll slip your TC:scare2:
Get a 4in or 5in straight pipe then after market air horn,then do a mild fuel plate and slide it all the way forward and afc housing!:tu:
Have you already messed with the afc?

Cummins_Power_13 01-14-2014 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by 12vcumminspower7 (Post 1044081)
Gotta open her up for air,then add minor fuel!
To much HP and TQ and you'll slip your TC:scare2:
Get a 4in or 5in straight pipe then after market air horn,then do a mild fuel plate and slide it all the way forward and afc housing!:tu:
Have you already messed with the afc?


I have not messed with the afc housing or the fuel plate. I'm about to purchase a Triple Pillar Gauge pod with 60 psi boost gauge, 1500 degree Pyro EGT gauge, and a Trans temp gauge. Then I'm going to purchase a TST Power Kit.

12vcumminspower7 01-14-2014 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Cummins_Power_13 (Post 1044087)
I have not messed with the afc housing or the fuel plate. I'm about to purchase a Triple Pillar Gauge pod with 60 psi boost gauge, 1500 degree Pyro EGT gauge, and a Trans temp gauge. Then I'm going to purchase a TST Power Kit.

Nice,I've had a couple friends run TST in there 12v they loved the power increase!:tu:

Cummins_Power_13 01-14-2014 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by 12vcumminspower7 (Post 1044090)
Nice,I've had a couple friends run TST in there 12v they loved the power increase!:tu:

The only thing I'm not sure of, is what Kit Level to get.. Or if I need to upgrade other stock components before buying the Power Kit :humm:

12vcumminspower7 01-14-2014 12:27 PM

:c:Do kit #6,Its not to much but just enough!:tu:
You can do #5 it will just wear you tranny down quicker!:td:
I have close to 315 RWHP and truck runs like a champ just a matter of time before my tranny goes,All just matters how heavy your right foot is!

Cummins_Power_13 01-14-2014 03:17 PM

Okay, I'll upgrade kits when I feel like buying a stronger built transmission. $2,700 for a transmission is quite to pricey for me right now. :nope:

12vcumminspower7 01-14-2014 04:05 PM

You can do the #5 and tranny will hold hold for a long time,Until you get you built tranny!:tu:

Cummins_Power_13 01-14-2014 05:07 PM

Also, what upgrades do I need, to be able to push upwards of 400-500 hp in my truck? Suggestions?

12vcumminspower7 01-14-2014 05:48 PM

4,000-rpm governor springs Taken from donor 160hp P-pump Free
Bosch 024 delivery valves DDP, more power less smoke $260
Injectors from local pump shop 5x18, EDM'd $750
FASS fuel system 95 series, 180-gph $589
Tech 64 turbo from Diesel Power Source 64/65/12 for quick spooling $1,295
BD torque converter 1,700-rpm stall, triple disc $1,695
46RH automatic rebuild Local transmission shop $1,500
*$6,089 = 515 hp at the wheels and 12-second quarter-mile times
Twin turbo (added to 64mm) S480 and all twin-turbo hardware $3,395
*$9,484 = 660 hp at the wheels and 11-second quarter-mile times


Read more: http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/d...#ixzz2qQ60rAsQ

Cummins_Power_13 01-14-2014 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by 12vcumminspower7 (Post 1044139)
4,000-rpm governor springs Taken from donor 160hp P-pump Free
Bosch 024 delivery valves DDP, more power less smoke $260
Injectors from local pump shop 5x18, EDM'd $750
FASS fuel system 95 series, 180-gph $589
Tech 64 turbo from Diesel Power Source 64/65/12 for quick spooling $1,295
BD torque converter 1,700-rpm stall, triple disc $1,695
46RH automatic rebuild Local transmission shop $1,500
*$6,089 = 515 hp at the wheels and 12-second quarter-mile times
Twin turbo (added to 64mm) S480 and all twin-turbo hardware $3,395
*$9,484 = 660 hp at the wheels and 11-second quarter-mile times


Read more: Adding 150 HP To An Affordably Built 12-Valve B-Series Cummins - Diesel Power Magazine


Thank You! Exactly what i was looking for. I really like this website. :up:

94 12valve 01-14-2014 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by 12vcumminspower7 (Post 1044139)
4,000-rpm governor springs Taken from donor 160hp P-pump Free
Bosch 024 delivery valves DDP, more power less smoke $260
Injectors from local pump shop 5x18, EDM'd $750
FASS fuel system 95 series, 180-gph $589
Tech 64 turbo from Diesel Power Source 64/65/12 for quick spooling $1,295
BD torque converter 1,700-rpm stall, triple disc $1,695
46RH automatic rebuild Local transmission shop $1,500
*$6,089 = 515 hp at the wheels and 12-second quarter-mile times
Twin turbo (added to 64mm) S480 and all twin-turbo hardware $3,395
*$9,484 = 660 hp at the wheels and 11-second quarter-mile times


Read more: Adding 150 HP To An Affordably Built 12-Valve B-Series Cummins - Diesel Power Magazine

the part in bold ... you have to get fairly lucky to find a free pump with 4k springs. And 5x.018's are way too big for what the op wants.

illinoisfox 01-15-2014 08:07 AM

You better get a shift kit in that trans and give it a chance to survive first.

Also for what you want, don't waste money on the exhaust and intake. stock parts move enough air for 400 hp.

Cummins_Power_13 01-15-2014 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by 94 12valve (Post 1044175)
the part in bold ... you have to get fairly lucky to find a free pump with 4k springs. And 5x.018's are way too big for what the op wants.


If 5x.018's are too big, what do you recommend that I get ?

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Originally Posted by illinoisfox (Post 1044213)
You better get a shift kit in that trans and give it a chance to survive first.

Also for what you want, don't waste money on the exhaust and intake. stock parts move enough air for 400 hp.


Should I just look into buying a higher stage trans? I was looking at ATS Stage 3 Transmissions, but damn are the expensive. Or should I just look into doing a 46RH automatic rebuild?

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Or is a Stage 2 Trans Enough ? Blahh, I Don't Know ! :s:

94 12valve 01-15-2014 02:20 PM

for 400 to 500 5x.012's with some body work will hit that number pretty easy

4x4manonbroke 01-15-2014 02:22 PM

just put a singke disc billet converter a.d a hd valve bidy in it and drive ...... dint spend what you don't have to...:tu:

94 12valve 01-15-2014 04:31 PM

For a DD and if your gonna spend money for a new TC a tripple disk is the only way to go

Cummins_Power_13 01-15-2014 06:45 PM

I don't want to spend what I don't have too. If a triple Disk Torque Converter is all I need, then that's all I'm gonna spend for the transmission.. Or do I still need other components?

94 12valve 01-16-2014 02:11 PM

Tripple disk converter, valve body, and a input shaft is all you will need

Cummins_Power_13 01-16-2014 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by 94 12valve (Post 1044399)
Tripple disk converter, valve body, and a input shaft is all you will need

Okay, that should save me some money.. What brand recommendations do you have? Or will any brand work?

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A Billet Input Shaft? Correct.. Sorry if the questions I ask are dumb. :argh:

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Originally Posted by 94 12valve (Post 1044269)
for 400 to 500 5x.012's with some body work will hit that number pretty easy


How many Horsepower injectors are these?


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