12v fuel plate
 

i have found you dont have to run a fuel plate and i would like to save myself 220 for buying a 0 plate what do you have to do or watch when taking out the plate completly

I've read on forums that you can cause damage to the governor arm by taking the plate out, yet others run plateless with 0 issues. I made my own 0 plate from the stock plate and have been running that for a couple of years with no issues.

when you take the plate completely out your not gaining anymore power your going to loose power also there is a possibility the truck will run away

best i just buy the #0

UMMM ... ur silly in the head .. Manny have seen Dyno runs plate to plate less with nearly 80 Hp difference .... and I have never seen a 6BT or a 4BT overspeed .... unless you messed with the gov spring and screwed it up ...

(My boss ) - "Engine's dont run away ... mechanics run away, and the engine overspeeds" words I live by .... and since I build 2 strokes all day ... the saying is true.:tu:

plateless is awesome just saying from experience 2 years no issues ur more like to have a issue with a ground plate if u dont adjust the governor arm

So manny people have been runign plateless for YEARS .... I know several who have been with out for 5+ yrs .... no damage done ...

how many of you work at a fuel shop? how many of you see the flow numbers from running plate-less vrs plate? how many of you realize that by running plate-less you give up that ability to tune the pump? the plate is there for a reason folks.

absolutely the pump will pump more in stock form without a plate, no arguments at all. there is the inherent risk of a runaway, i have never seen one. are you going to hurt your truck by running without? 99.9% no, will you look like a teenager and in many cases have a poorly tuned truck? yes. in some situations plate-less works, on the street however (I personally) think the small gain is void to the drive ability problems you will see. modify the stock plate or buy a different one. they can be had for $20 on evilbay all day long. my personal 2 preferences are a 100 and a #6.:c:

highily tune or porrly tuned you would have more of a power gain with no plate in which you call poorly tuned

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wouldnt you
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no, just because truck A has 15cc more fuel available than truck B doesn't in the least bit determine how well it will run. if the tuning is all out of wack its going to run like hell and loose you power. tuning is absolutely key in these old mechanical trucks, we don't have computers to do it for us. its very easy for us to add fuel but metering it for a specific application is the hard part. and the more metering pieces you take from a pump just to get a few extra CC's of fuel the harder and less accurately you can meter the entire injection process.

nothing to say hey thank you for the info and what you said makes total since :jump:

glad i could help

In order for an Engine to "Run away" ... it needs legs .... Engines overspeed .... correct terminology for real mechanics .....

The reason you never see a 6BT Overspeed with out fuel plate .... is because thats not the cause of the phenominom....
The actual cause is improper installation of the Govenor Spring..... which if installed incorrectly will not hold the govenor back and will cause it to malfunction and the engine will be able to rev uncontrollably ......
I do work on govenors ..... 8v92's 6v92's .... never had one overspeed .....

The reason its called overspeed ... is be cause "Overspeeding" means its uncontrolled.... and unless your Engine grows legs .... dont expect to see your 6BT or ISB running away.. :td:

You have the most "potential" horsepower with no plate just take the plate out and put a boost fouler on the turbo and set it at 35psi take out the afc ARM and grind 3/8" off and slide the afc all the way forward then tune your afc . The horsepower differwnce is amazing I can tune my truck for no smoke and have had best mpg and horsepower setting the afc for full fuel at 30psi. I have heard that the 215hp pump is the only one that if you remove the plate completely you risk a runaway because of the arm sticking

Depending on what ppump you have depends on my answer to this question. Will the plate cause a run away ... no it will not. Can you tune the pump with out the plate ... yes you can. The AFC plays the biggest part in the tune of these pumps, the plate is simply a fuel stop there have been many threads on here and other sites talking about this. When the plate is removed the new fuel stop becomes the rack plug, this plug has caused issues when being changed or modded. There is a holder that can hang the rack if the plug is not installed correctly, a new rack plug is a great mod but one that should be done correctly.

THANK YOU !!!!!:tu:

I have the plate out on my 97, i get very little smoke but my afc is turned way down i get awesome power and good mpg 16-17 on a dualy, smokes less than my brothers 95 that has zero plate, like said early afc is the key to tuning a pump

I currently am running 15.5* timing, plate FF, and star is truned up several turnes, and left the smoke screw is in factory spot.... it HAULS !!!!.... and I have 4.10's, short cab, long box, scale weight is like 5862 or so ... yeah, its fast... came with a 180 now has a 215HP engine w/887 pump... so 191DV's and 5x10"s stock .... with the hx35W , low stall converter, cant wait to get studs and a set of twins ... :w2: .... will see ya at the other end :hellox:

My *[engine] setup is in my sig. I've had the plate out a lot longer than the GSK, AFC slid up and timing, but I've still been running this exact pump configuration* for over ten thousand miles now with zero issues, drive-ability or otherwise. In fact, as far as street manners, it drives better in every way since pulling the plate out.

My understanding is right in line with what "94 12valve" said- namely, that unless you start modding things with a grinder, mess with the rack plug or do something wrong internally, there will be no risk of a runaway pump. A little turning of the screw brought my smoke to a minimum, it drives like a big baby when you're just putting around and surges ahead like a Tomcat when you stand on it, and cracks 20mpg with ease on the highway at 70mph. That all being said, I just finished building tranny #6, but I digress. Anyway, I can't speak for everyone, but overall my experience running plateless has been downright godly.
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