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first-gen-tough 07-16-2013 06:45 PM

Which turbo would be my best choice???
 
I have a 96 12v, 60lb valve springs, 4gsk springs, 0 plate, boost elbo, EGT gauge and boost gauge. stage 2 clutch. timing at 16.8. with the new boost elbo and fuel mods i get 38psi for boost. even at full boost i still have come smoke. Wanting to get a turbo to help push about 45 psi. keeping stock head gasket and studs for now. dont want to spend a fortune either.

If it was up to me id get a aurora 3000 but they are not in my budget. any other turbos out there that are more affordable but still reliable and push the boost i need? anything is helpful!

turbo2332 07-16-2013 08:51 PM

i will have a 62/65/14 for sale in the next week or so. i made 427hp and 960tq with it on 5x12's. i just had it off the truck cleaned up and rebalanced it.
is now gated in the 42psi range but i ran it on the dyno @48

somkincummins95 07-16-2013 09:29 PM

turbo2332 i have a 62/65/13 on my 95 and im trying to decide on injectors, with the 5x12's what egt's were u running? do u think it would be too hot for a 20,000 pound goosneck? :humm:

turbo2332 07-17-2013 05:21 AM

no. IF you use your smart head when you drive. it is absolutely possible to melt the old girl down but i pull a pretty heavy 24ft enclosed and never see over 900 pulling. 5x12's and a 62/65 work very well together. they have their limits like everything else. lots/most people choose to over fuel like crazy. stock injectors can get you a long way before an upgrade is needed. look in to some 7x10's they are nearly the same size as 5x12's but arguably may give you a little better bottom end grunt. also 155* angles will most likely net you a few more ponies but run dirtier than the factory spray pattern of 145* i believe all 7 hole injectors are 148*.

somkincummins95 07-17-2013 11:04 AM

ok thanks!

first-gen-tough 07-17-2013 08:46 PM

Any name brands I can search? not looking to spend over 800 right now

turbo2332 07-17-2013 08:47 PM

you will not be able to touch a new gated turbo for that price. anywhere.

95taylor331 07-17-2013 11:00 PM

As stated by turbo332 the stockers will get you a long way , the 7x.010's are more equivalent to a 5x.013, so 5x.012's are what is considered 90hp, stay away from 370's IMO , the spray angle is at 155* and they are dirty and hot, if you tow I would get a proper set of 5x.012's with a 145* , they are much cleaner and cooler, if you decide to go the 7x.010 route it's not a bad choice , if you get the thinner copper washers it will knock it down from the 148* to be pretty dead on 145* , as far as turbo as stated above I'd be looking at the 62/65/12 or 14, save the extra coin and get the right turbo the first go around, there is no sense in spending money twice, also look into the new turbo from AFE, I've heard good things about it but also don't know much about it, it's a 58mm inducer which is the same as the aurora 3000, idk how the exducer compares though, they can be had for 1,100 bucks, just my .02

turbo2332 07-18-2013 05:23 AM

the cross section area is smaller on a set of 7x10's compared to 5x12's

first-gen-tough 07-19-2013 06:44 AM

not getting injectors right now. just gonna run a 0 plate slide forward with stock nozzles for now. what size is the aurora 3000? is it a 64/65/14? I'm not real familliar with turbo sizes an injectors yet. i dont want something huge that will lag. my buddy has the 400 with 75hp nozzles and it lags. I was looking into a 3000 where it picks up quicker, any ideas?

95taylor331 07-19-2013 12:09 PM

No, the aurora 3000 is a 58/73/?? Idk the A/R but that's the inducer and exducer size, it's a non gated turbo

The aurora 4000 is a 63.5/70/.86 A/R if I recall, I haven't dealt with ATS stuff in forever though so I'm trying to remember

turbo2332 07-19-2013 05:14 PM

a 3000 is very similar to a BD super b its a 58/65/14 think they come non gated. i would steer you away from anything smaller than a 62/65/whatever. if you want something that small stay with stock and save $1500. an hx35 can easily make it into the mid 300hp. i dont like the covers on the s300g as they are restrictive and a bastard size.

first-gen-tough 07-19-2013 08:14 PM

my buddy has a 4000 with a zero plate and 75 horse injectors. It lights around 2000rpm and has a good lag to it. We both have the same amount of work done besides his turbo and injectors. I would put it in my sig but i dont know how too. With my set up i get 35-38 pounds of boost with stock turbo, 0 plate and 16.8 degrees timing. I want to get a 3000, i hear they light around 1500-1600 and build the same amount of boost. Im keeping stock head gasket and studs too so i dont wan to go over 50psi

turbo2332 07-19-2013 08:46 PM

psi is a measure of restriction. volume is the amount of air moved (CFM) . buy what you want but i bet within 6 months you wish you would have went another direction. a 3000 by itself is barley an upgrade over the stocker. and if the stocker blows up a replacement can be had for $200 on good OL craigslist all day long.

:c: signing off

95taylor331 07-19-2013 09:53 PM

I agree with turbo332, don't buy the 3000, you will be sorry, look more along the lines of a phatshaft 62/65/12, is 1500 and well worth the money spent, save your penny's and get a 62, I promise you will be sorry if you get a super B or 3000, the 62 will run around 35-40psi which is safe for head gaskets, as far as the 16* of timing, it's a ticking time bomb IMO, drive pressure blows head gaskets, not boost, keep that in mind , when you raise your timing your increasing drive pressure

4x4manonbroke 07-19-2013 10:44 PM

hey 95 ... what would you run for timing at around 400 hp ? .. that's my goal .. nothing more... unless its by blissful mistake...LOL :rocking:

first-gen-tough 07-20-2013 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by 95taylor331 (Post 1017585)
I agree with turbo332, don't buy the 3000, you will be sorry, look more along the lines of a phatshaft 62/65/12, is 1500 and well worth the money spent, save your penny's and get a 62, I promise you will be sorry if you get a super B or 3000, the 62 will run around 35-40psi which is safe for head gaskets, as far as the 16* of timing, it's a ticking time bomb IMO, drive pressure blows head gaskets, not boost, keep that in mind , when you raise your timing your increasing drive pressure

My buddy has the 4000 with injectors and it lags bad. the guy he bough his 4000 from went to a 3000 and is much happier with it. It lights around 1500 and not 2000 with the 4000. the three of us all have 5 speeds so between shifts we all loose boost. im pretty new when it comes to turbos. I dont want it to lag bad like his, need something that builds 40-45 and gets lights around 1500. from what i hear the 3000 does it.


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