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swelbe 01-28-2013 10:14 PM

jake brake
 
:humm:hi ive done some mods to my 12v. i do alot of pulling horse trailer up an down big hills. wanting to know more about exhaust breaks, are the hard on your motor or not so bad. i dont know much about them. thanks for any help

H.R.D 01-28-2013 11:56 PM

If you tow at all, I highly recommend an exhaust brake. Hell, even if you don't tow I suggest an exhaust brake.:tu:

Rockstarman 01-29-2013 12:12 AM

It's recommended to upgrade your exhaust valve springs to 60lbs or more if you install one and I've heard both ways on wether or not its good or bad on the engine. I've rode in a 07 2500 cummins with a utility bed loaded down to the max with a welder, compressor and other such equipment and it made a big difference when it was on and off; saves the brakes too. Only down side that I've heard is a mechanic at the dealer told us that if you don't run with it on alot it will stick up with carbon and jam sometimes open sometimes closed

swelbe 01-29-2013 06:33 AM

thanks for all the info. do you know what size stock valve springs are? im thinking about puting a tow cam in also. It seems diesel mods are like tattos once you do one you just have to keep goin :tu::jump:

Rockstarman 01-29-2013 08:48 AM

I'm pretty sure they're 35lbs stock but dont quote me on that. yea i feel you on the add ons theyre addicting as heck. if you're going to do the cam and exhaust springs id look into upgrading the intake springs too while your in there.:tu:

swelbe 01-29-2013 09:04 AM

thanks Ive been looking at the 60lbs springs for both in. an ex. the cam im lookin for is just a mild street an tow but its seem to be hard to find. any idea?

Blair@BD 01-29-2013 09:12 AM

The stock 12V 5.9 came with 30# valve springs, to get the most retarding you want to install the 60# valve springs, Also if the truck is an automatic you are going to need a Transmission lock up controller.

geddy's uncle 01-29-2013 10:23 AM

Here's another comment in favor of the exhaust brake.... Aside from "it works", and "saves the wheel-brakes", somebody a long time ago, in a webthread far, far away said that its use would keep the exhaust valves from cooling too rapidly and warping on the downhill side after a high-temperature climb. I have no idea if that's a real concern, but, it sounded plausible to me.

gburgboater 03-29-2013 06:00 PM

Is a used jake brake worth anything?
 
I have a 95 dodge 2500 with a jake brake and do not pull any large loads I am thinking of taking the jake brake off. Is there any interest in used jake brakes and what could I get for one?

4x4manonbroke 04-01-2013 09:59 PM

I too just upgraded to a 5" exhaust system and I have an exhaust brake for the factory exhaust system if interested I would be glad to give it away ..... gonna want a 5" pac brake if I'm gonna do it again ..
Would love to get a real "jake Brake" ... as in on the head its self.... seen one for the new trucks ... wonder what it would take to het one on these 12V's ????? :humm:

geddy's uncle 04-01-2013 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by 4x4manonbroke (Post 999816)
I too just upgraded to a 5" exhaust system and I have an exhaust brake for the factory exhaust system if interested I would be glad to give it away ..... gonna want a 5" pac brake if I'm gonna do it again ..
Would love to get a real "jake Brake" ... as in on the head its self.... seen one for the new trucks ... wonder what it would take to het one on these 12V's ????? :humm:



Big pile of Benjamins.

Reeb 04-03-2013 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by 4x4manonbroke (Post 999816)
I too just upgraded to a 5" exhaust system and I have an exhaust brake for the factory exhaust system if interested I would be glad to give it away ..... gonna want a 5" pac brake if I'm gonna do it again ..
Would love to get a real "jake Brake" ... as in on the head its self.... seen one for the new trucks ... wonder what it would take to het one on these 12V's ????? :humm:

How much would you want for said exhaust brake?

RanchhandTCR 04-04-2013 12:06 AM

So you know there is a difference between jake brakes and exhaust brakes jakes take away power right before tdc it pops the exhaust valves and exhaust brakes use backpressure instead of wasting all the energy like jake brakes that popping noise is the compression from the cylinders they just waste all that energy. But if you tow alot and are on grades and traveling on passes they are nice to have.

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Originally Posted by 4x4manonbroke (Post 999816)
I too just upgraded to a 5" exhaust system and I have an exhaust brake for the factory exhaust system if interested I would be glad to give it away ..... gonna want a 5" pac brake if I'm gonna do it again ..
Would love to get a real "jake Brake" ... as in on the head its self.... seen one for the new trucks ... wonder what it would take to het one on these 12V's ????? :humm:

A completly new head hahaha!!! and alot of money. the nice thing about jakes though is that they are easy to rebuild.

kapnhook 04-18-2013 08:22 PM

who makes exhaust brakes for a 12v?will they work with an auto?do they make engine brakes for a 12v?

DMan1198 04-20-2013 11:00 AM

pacbrake and bd diesel make exhaust brakes. I believe they aren't aplication specific so they'll work on a 12 valve. nobody makes an engine brake for a 12v. Pacbrake makes one for the 6.7 cummins but that's it

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the kits are between automatics and manuals (difference being a trans controller)

kapnhook 04-21-2013 08:16 AM

thanks

cummins_ford 04-23-2013 09:19 AM

is it a jake or exhaust brake?


Originally Posted by gburgboater (Post 999251)
I have a 95 dodge 2500 with a jake brake and do not pull any large loads I am thinking of taking the jake brake off. Is there any interest in used jake brakes and what could I get for one?


RanchhandTCR 04-23-2013 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by cummins_ford (Post 1003638)
is it a jake or exhaust brake?

100 bucks its an exhaust brake...


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