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slowboogy 11-11-2012 09:43 PM

12 valve HELP!!!
 
i got a 12 valve auto single wheel base... need some help on how to make it roll coal....

angelic0- 11-11-2012 10:46 PM

build your transmission.... grind a plate.... tune your afc... advance timing... a lot can be done...

what is your goal, what is the truck used for, how much power are you thinking.. ??

or are you just being a 'tard and wanting just black smoke... ? then just put a plasting bag on your air filter...

Ltk 11-11-2012 11:57 PM

:argh:

1993firstgennewbie 11-12-2012 05:34 PM

turn the starwheel all the way to the engine. Prepare to get flamed for this thread, maybe you should try the search button before you make your self look dumb next time

yfzrunner 11-12-2012 06:37 PM

ya black smoke is bye bye mpgs just buy a train

slowboogy 11-18-2012 12:33 PM

lol
 
i know i am going to get hulled out over this.... but yea i just wanna roll some coal when u turn the star wheel do u turn it left or right? and i aint puttin no trash bag over my air filter lol...

Ltk 11-18-2012 01:30 PM

sell it and buy a civic

angelic0- 11-18-2012 01:44 PM

Just do it right, grind or cut your fuel plate to a #0, slide it back or forward for more or less power, tune your AFC correctly and you will have a powerful truck that rolls coal without everyone just laughing at you for being stupid...

Don't forget, if you overfuel your truck (hence the black smoke) without gauges, you are likely going to end up cooking your motor with EGTs !

But if you really want to roll coal, seriously... put a trash bag on your air filter... no air and too much fuel = black smoke...

You could also retard your timing to 10°, and for more smoke fill your fuel tank with waste motor oil...

sweetv8s10 11-18-2012 05:43 PM

It might jsut be me but I have never had anyone laugh at me for rolling some coal!

Ltk 11-18-2012 08:16 PM

Probably because theres more fanboys than people who care

angelic0- 11-19-2012 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by sweetv8s10 (Post 962183)
It might jsut be me but I have never had anyone laugh at me for rolling some coal!

If you have a truck that does nothing else, just roll coal and purrs slow by...

I'd think the owner was a retard ;)

DieselObsession76 11-19-2012 09:39 AM

Build a ricer instead....

slowboogy 11-23-2012 06:17 PM

Well now my truck won't kick into overdrive any help?

Ltk 11-23-2012 06:45 PM

lol...

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figure out how to make it roll coal yet? :jump:

olsmokey 11-23-2012 07:20 PM

if you want smoke you might as well make it powerful smoke. do some tuning and a plate but that alone is probably enough to ruin your tranny if its a stock auto. all depends on if you want to take off from an intersection coughing smoke like a coal train, or if you want to take of rollin posi with smoke flyin.

slowboogy 11-23-2012 10:50 PM

Man... I turned the star wheel a little to see what it would do and it didn't do shit should I turn it more? Or what? :humm:

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Man I turned the star wheel just a little to see what it would do... It didn't do anything do I turn it more? Or what I feel like I am fucking up my truck... Do I turn it left or right? :humm:K

Ltk 11-23-2012 11:37 PM

you really need to find a new hobbie.. your worried about smoke, yet you dont know what to do.. if your worried about messing up your truck why try to make it smoke in the first place...? :humm:

slowboogy 11-24-2012 02:13 AM

Hey buddy hope off my thread if u don't like It

Ltk 11-24-2012 10:44 AM

Just trying to educate. You build for smoke and nothing else your going to have problems. That smoke gets HOT. And worry about that automatic before throwing any power to it. Priorities my friend. Just dont want anybody going around messing up their truck. Now if u dont care about hitting 1500 degrees for 10 minutes then you can build for smoke if u want. Its all fun and games til they start trying to put emissions equipment on older diesels like RAWilliams said.

Clouds of black smoke may not be as bad as gasolines emissions, but ours is visible.

1999stroker 11-24-2012 11:51 AM

Hey newb first off dont come in here acting like you owb the place,remember you came to us for guidance.go to cummins forum and ask them how to make it im sure theyll help. Seriously like everyonea said build for power and smoke will come as a by product.

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angelic0- 11-24-2012 12:52 PM

I'm seconding 1999strokers reply.

You can't just sign up here and act like you're the boss. You are coming to us for advice which we are more than willing to give to you.

What do you use your truck for ?

Do you tow, do you use it as a daily or is it strictly a truck you take to the strip ?

slowboogy 12-06-2012 09:02 PM

hey guys sorry i jumped the gun thats my bad... i slide the fuel plate and got some gauges and i cranked the star wheel and no lie i can feel a little more power im over black smoke i just want power now... i am thinking about a shift kit for this junky ass auto trans i got what yall think??

H.R.D 12-06-2012 09:34 PM

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I really shouldn't help you, because people like you ruin a serious passion of mine which is modding diesels not for smoke but power. In fact I get mad when mine smokes excessively because that means the tuning is not optimal. However, since you can't seem to use the search functions and I guess I am feeling generous tonight I will help you out.

Below are some pdf files that will help you tune your 12v...

Ltk 12-06-2012 11:24 PM

Got over blacksmoke awful quick :humm:

H.R.D 12-06-2012 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by Ltk (Post 969080)
Got over blacksmoke awful quick :humm:

Kind of leaning towards him being a troll....:bat:

slowboogy 12-07-2012 09:56 AM

lol yea i am over the black smoke... but what do yall think i should buy to help strengthen my tranny? without buying a 4000 dollar tranny

tiremann9669 12-07-2012 03:06 PM

Valve body and torque converter :c:

slowboogy 12-07-2012 06:33 PM

okay... that helps... i just ordered a #0 fuel plate when i install it do i have to adjust anything or just drop it in and go with it

chadcycle 2500 12-07-2012 08:24 PM

we prefer better language here also

angelic0- 12-07-2012 09:34 PM

Drop the fuel plate in, set it to center for your tranny's sake until you build it...

then tune your AFC, i think the low end torque is the thing that's killing trannies though...

Come on guys, he's come to his senses... :)

pouring smoke 12-07-2012 10:00 PM

i love when the 550 horse smokes like hell egts are fine full throttelwhen u pedel it

Ltk 12-07-2012 10:48 PM

Im sure ur truck has 550 horse lmao.. Is that what is says on the box?


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