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My 89 Cummins Puller weighs in at 5750 with me in it... Seeing as how I am in a 8000 class that leaves ALOT of weight I can play with. I ran this run with 1600 lbs in my tool box because we can't hang ... JOIN NOW TO REMOVE TRACER

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Old 05-13-2008, 08:19 AM
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My 89 Cummins Puller weighs in at 5750 with me in it... Seeing as how I am in a 8000 class that leaves ALOT of weight I can play with.


I ran this run with 1600 lbs in my tool box because we can't hang weights but can add it.
(I'm in the white 1st Gen)

(I'm in the white 1st Gen)

Then I made this pull the next weekend with no weight added...

I pulled farther and faster w/o the weight... Was this a fluke? I'm thinking that my little VE with just pump mods does not have the power to get the extra weight down the track...

I have since added some POD's and now and in a delema... Do I add the weight this weekend or not? -

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I aint an expert but I would say dont add the extra weight


I think ya need gov springs to up the RPM and get yer wheel speed up -

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I aint an expert but I would say dont add the extra weight


I think ya need gov springs to up the RPM and get yer wheel speed up
Got a 3200 spring... the damn 2:1 transfer case and 3.07 gears are KILLING me. -
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I Personally Think Its The Paint Job
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The Paint Job is part of the sleeper look... Whats sucks for me though is the other part of the sleeper look (being fast) has not come together yet. -
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I Personally Think Its The Paint Job


I think that the crappy tin roof paint is causing extra drag and slowing the whole thing down... -

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I aint an expert but I would say dont add the extra weight


I think ya need gov springs to up the RPM and get yer wheel speed up
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Got a 3200 spring... the damn 2:1 transfer case and 3.07 gears are KILLING me.
What Whit said, you need to get your wheel speed up but with those 3.07 gears your screwed unless you're making about 1000hp. -

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shorter tires or swap the gears for more RPM, and yes there are 4.10 and 4.56's available now for Dana 61/71's from Randy's Ring and Pinion now......are you running in first gear in the transmission and not shifting........


how did you pull in comparison to the other trucks, if you always pull with the same 10-15 trucks (like we do in ohio) and your always placing around the same place or same distance behind or in front of the other trucks at every pull you got a good truck, now if everything is "perfect" and this happens, you got a consistent truck, now once you have consistency, you start slowly tweaking and turning and moving and playing with stuff, ONLY CHANGE ONE THING AT A TIME, I CANNOT STRESS THAT POINT ENOUGH, IF IT WORKS KEEP IT, IF IT GETS WORSE PUT IT BACK, and keep a small notebook and write down stuff like track conditions, tire pressures, how many trucks, what place you pulled, what place you finished, all that stuff, so you can log your consistency, cause if the first weekend you was running a "lead sled" and the second weekend you was on a "drag race sled" you will have 2 completely different distances, even the same sled on different tracks will have different distances.......with a lead sled you need the low end grunt and gain speed until the pan slows you to a stop, with a drag race sled you need wheel speed then cause when the pan hits your going to eat steering wheel......it can take several pulls to get the truck tuned just right to what it likes......try putting some of the weight on the floorboard next time.......



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that only works if theres a pull every weekend....

only once a year for me -
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i'd say no weight as you'll be able to run more wheel speed w/o bogging the motor down trying to get that extra 1600# moving..... -

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that only works if theres a pull every weekend....

only once a year for me
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shorter tires or swap the gears for more RPM, and yes there are 4.10 and 4.56's available now for Dana 61/71's from Randy's Ring and Pinion now......are you running in first gear in the transmission and not shifting........


how did you pull in comparison to the other trucks, if you always pull with the same 10-15 trucks (like we do in ohio) and your always placing around the same place or same distance behind or in front of the other trucks at every pull you got a good truck, now if everything is "perfect" and this happens, you got a consistent truck, now once you have consistency, you start slowly tweaking and turning and moving and playing with stuff, ONLY CHANGE ONE THING AT A TIME, I CANNOT STRESS THAT POINT ENOUGH, IF IT WORKS KEEP IT, IF IT GETS WORSE PUT IT BACK, and keep a small notebook and write down stuff like track conditions, tire pressures, how many trucks, what place you pulled, what place you finished, all that stuff, so you can log your consistency, cause if the first weekend you was running a "lead sled" and the second weekend you was on a "drag race sled" you will have 2 completely different distances, even the same sled on different tracks will have different distances.......with a lead sled you need the low end grunt and gain speed until the pan slows you to a stop, with a drag race sled you need wheel speed then cause when the pan hits your going to eat steering wheel......it can take several pulls to get the truck tuned just right to what it likes......try putting some of the weight on the floorboard next time.......



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Yeah I got most that down... This ain't my first rodeo... First season in the pulls but alot of the same stuff (taking notes, tweaking one thing at a time, ect) comes over from all hobbies (4wheelers, Hunting, Fishing, ect) that I do. I have not seen the 4.56's from Randy yet.. Seen the 4.10's though.

I am just trying to figure out if th eweight is hurting me more then it's helping... So far I'm up in the air... -
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move some of the weight to the floorboard on your next pull, i wish i knew what RPM you was turning going down the track, the truck has 33's dont it???? -
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The gears would def. help! Did you mod the bump stops to limit the travel yet? Cheap set of home made traction bars will help to. In the first vid your tires are tryin to eat the wheelwell for lunch! But stuck in first gear with not alot of speed, like others said the weight won't help. Its just more to try to keep movin at that low ground speed. -

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