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PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE, IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO KILL EVERY KITTEN AND PUPPY WITHIN A 1000 YARDS OF WHERE YOU DRIVE, DO NOT INSTALL FRONT LIFT BLOCKS ON LEAF SPRING TRUCKS... IF YOU EVEN THINK THAT IT IS OK, YOU ... JOIN NOW TO REMOVE TRACER

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Old 12-24-2009, 12:17 AM
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PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE, IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO KILL EVERY KITTEN AND PUPPY WITHIN A 1000 YARDS OF WHERE YOU DRIVE, DO NOT INSTALL FRONT LIFT BLOCKS ON LEAF SPRING TRUCKS...

IF YOU EVEN THINK THAT IT IS OK, YOU ARE WRONG...

IF YOU THINK NOTHING BAD WILL HAPPEN, YOU ARE WRONG...

IF YOU THINK IT LOOKS COOL, YOU ARE WRONG...

IF YOU ARE TOO CHEAP TO BUY SPRINGS, YOU ARE WRONG...

IF YOU THINK IT IS LEGAL, YOU ARE WRONG...


MR. LAWMAN DOES NOT LIKE FRONT LIFT BLOCKS...NEITHER DOES MR. DOT OFFICER...BOTH WILL IMPOUND YOUR TRUCK, MAKE YOU TAKE IT TO A STATE CERTIFIED GARAGE AND YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY TO HAVE THEM REMOVED, AND IF ALL THE REST OF US DRIVERS ARE LUCKY ENOUGH, THIS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU, CAUSE YOU ARE PUTTING ALL OF US, INCLUDING YOURSELF, AND ANYONE THAT RIDES WITH YOU IN DANGER...

SO FOR THE SAKE OF THE KITTENS, PUPPIES, AND CHILDREN...

DON'T RUN FRONT LIFT BLOCKS!!!


COULD A MOD PLEASE STICKY THIS FOR ME HERE IN THE SUSPENSION SECTION...

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Old 12-24-2009, 03:03 AM
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How about a little more explanation about where your goin with this other then just Don't run lift blocks cause you will kill puppies and kittens..

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i think your caps lock button is stuck too

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ya wouldnt think lift blocks are the way to go on the front, better choices, but tell us why the urgency.


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"IF YOU THINK IT IS LEGAL, YOU ARE WRONG...

MR. LAWMAN DOES NOT LIKE FRONT LIFT BLOCKS...NEITHER DOES MR. DOT OFFICER...BOTH WILL IMPOUND YOUR TRUCK, MAKE YOU TAKE IT TO A STATE CERTIFIED GARAGE AND YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY TO HAVE THEM REMOVED, AND IF ALL THE REST OF US DRIVERS ARE LUCKY ENOUGH, THIS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU, CAUSE YOU ARE PUTTING ALL OF US, INCLUDING YOURSELF, AND ANYONE THAT RIDES WITH YOU IN DANGER..."

What part of ILLEGAL are people not getting in this statement above...

I put it in caps so all the people that think its such a great idea on here to use them will pay attention...I've seen people on here talk about it and some people agree and just think its a great idea to use them...Why let bad advice be told to people that dont know better...Then they come back on here all pissed off cause someone gave them bad advice and they destroyed their truck or killed someone...I guess I am just tired of all the mouth breathers on the internet thinking its a great idea to jury rig their street trucks...Been spending too much time on Pirate 4x4 I guess...
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Logan may be correct but it even makes me cringe when I see blocks in a coil over set up.

I say, spend the money and lift it or level it correctly.

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Not tryin to tell ya your wrong Logan, I been preachin about not usin even the coil spring pucks for a long time now but for the sake of making this an informative post you need to explain you reasoning's here so that everyone reading it will understand.
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Not speaking from experience on the LS setup but it could be that:
A. this sort of set up lacks lateral support.
B. if they aren't connected properly they could come out on full relaxation of the spring weighted system.
C. they may place undo stress on the pin connection of the LS to the frame of the truck.
D. it could very likely, make the ride very tough.

Speaking from experience on the coil over:
A. those blocks limit the OEM shock and OEM travel / rebound.
B. they brake down over time (if plastic).
C. they place greater stress on the OEM coil making them settle faster than normal.
D. they look goofy.

Like I said, spend the money and get a D25 replacement spring and new shock.
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c'mon logan you went to college, i think you can put something better together in a informative post besides yelling at them though the computer, and yeah something technical would help
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I have 1'' blocks on my front leafs but we welded them to my leafs.

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Simple physics. Leverage points.

When you apply the brakes, approximately 70-80% of your vehicle's weight is pitched forward to the front axle, and puts an extreme amount of stress on the front springs, front axle, and u-bolts, as the front axle attempts to rotate out from underneath the stress.

When you add a block into the equation it elevates the leverage point on the front axle, causing the axle roll to become even more dramatic. Enough force or pressure can be applied to spit the front block out from between the axle and the spring, resulting in loss of suspension control and all steering control, which will most definitely have disastrous results for your vehicle, and more than likely yourself, passengers, other motorists, the guardrail, and probably a kitten or puppy or two in the surrounding vicinity.

Old school "traction lifts" were essentially a front lift block with a bar extending outward and attaching to the leaf pack with a clamp, to work as kind of a ladder bar to transfer some of this stress, but even those could on occasion dislodge and cause suspension and/or steering system bind, thereby rendering a loss of vehicle control.

In short, a front lift block on a leaf sprung suspension is a dumb idea.

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I have 1'' blocks on my front leafs but we welded them to my leafs.
..and by doing this you have eliminated the action of the block actually spitting out, but have still caused additional issues:

1. You still raised your leverage point unsafely to a situation where the springs will have a more difficult time controlling the lateral movement and the vertical movement of your truck, and the front axle will at some point overcome the resistance and rotate out from underneath the spring, break the u-bolts, and you'll be--best case scenario--scratching your head while standing on the side of the road while the tow truck hooks up to your truck.

Worst case scenario, you'll lose control, crash, and die. Hope the cheap way out to get the big meats is worth the risk.

2. You welded on a heat treated spring....do I really need to even go into this? And before you tell me "we re-heat treated it/my cousin's buddy's brother owns a shop, etc etc etc" no self respecting spring shop or fabrication facility will even attempt this, for obvious reasons...it's a stupid idea....and if a shop actually did it, please post their contact information so the rest of us normal people can avoid the hack metalworker and not die from shoddy workmanship.

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I have 1'' blocks on my front leafs but we welded them to my leafs.
Please don't reproduce...Your signature block explains alot though...


I think I explained it enough, its illegal and dangerous to them and everyone around them...If they don't know why its wrong to use blocks with front leafs, then they wont understand any type of technical explanation...This type of crappy "fab" work makes the rest of the truck/offroad/4x4 community look like idiots and does nothing but give them ammunition to shut us down, same with the retards blowing smoke everywhere...The coil spring spacers aren't nearly as bad, and are road legal, unlike blocks under leaves...

Thanks, Dan...

And Danny your truck already came pre-installed with a worthless suspension, so your already ahead of the game...
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looks like the cheerio's pissing bandit was busy last night , Lets be respectful

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Originally Posted by LOGANSTANFORTH View Post
Please don't reproduce...Your signature block explains alot though...:
What does it explain? I know it wasn't the smartest thing to do I am sure you have never done anything that wasnt that smart before. And I plan on on putting new springs when i put a solid front axel under my truck and then I wont have ANY blocks under my front end.
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