Have a 2008 Dodge (see sig) with 3.73 gearing. I have about 30kmiles and will be needing new tires soon. I do most of my driving on the road pulling a 10000lb toy trailer. I'd like to go to a little bigger tire for the looks but stay with the stock rims (17x8 aluminum). I'm considering either the Toyo Open Country AT or Nitto Dura Grappler. The sizes i'm looking at are either 285/70R-17 (1" taller than stock) or 285/75R-17 (2" taller than stock). I'd like to know thoughts on Toyo vs. Nitto and what people think about the size. The truck tows ok with stock tires but I'm a little worried that the larger tire would lower the RPM below 1500 at 60mph. I guess to keep the RPMs up on the road when towing I could lock out 6th gear (6th OD is 0.63, 5th OD is 0.81, 4th is 1.00). Anybody have any thoughts.

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Toyo IMO no question.

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I've ran both on my Duramax and the Toyo's seem to do better in wet conditions, but they last exactly the same mileage on my trucks, 45K. The Toyo's were quieter than the Nitto's after some mileage was put on them. Another one for Toyo.

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They are sister companies so they are probably real similar.

My vote is Toyo though, I've spent a lot of money in the last six years with them and I'm very happy. Not sure that I would change to another tire.

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Yes, they are sister companies but the Toyo's seem to cost more. My guess is the Toyo brand is like Lexus is to Toyota.

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/ it depends on what ur gonna do with it, strcictly highway mostly, the dura grapplers will out last because they are a high way tread instead of an allterrean

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How are the Trail Grapplers? How do they compare?

I would say Nitto we have had a few sets of them on our dodge's and I like them!

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92 Dodge W250, Lifted with 35/14.50 Nitto Mud Grapplers, 5" stacks and some pump mods

I can't justify spending more for the same rubber, being as they are basically from the same company it's quite likely they share the same raw materials, including the rubber compounds. The two companies can have more/different tread patterns to appeal to a wider audience. Nitto has some more specialized designs, and I believe that is the whole idea where they (Nitto) came from in the 1st place.

Nitto's for me. Got them on both my trucks - Duras and Terras. Great tires.

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toyo's all the way . i have the M/T and they are quiet for a mud tire for sure

You are comparing apples and oranges...The Duragrappler is a HTR tire (Highway Terrain Tire), the Open Country A/T is well, an A/T...Two way different tires...Toyo has a HTR tire that is comparable to the Duragrappler, its actually built with the same carcass, just a different tread layed on it...same with the Toyo and Nitto MT's and AT's, the same but different...If yo uare towing all the time, Duragrapplers, if your driving alot, A/T's...

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dont go with nitto they suck horrible on wet road and are loud on highway they dont do nearly as well as they look go with toyo also might want to consider mickey thompson or goodyear there also got tires

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Out of the two, go with Toyo's. I love my ProComp's though. They are aggressive looking but still a streetable tire.

This is Nitto's. So obnoxiously loud!!

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Which ones suck - Dura, Terra, Dune, Trail or Mud?

Or you saying they all suck?


You will hear the same thing from any mud tire on a roller. Big freakin' surprise there!

OTOH tho, I've heard alot of complaints about Procomps.

all have to say is, just get a load range e tire. who ever/whatever tire you get. i have tried load range d and e. and the d range tires alway cone/cup on the edges.

i have tried diffrent pressures in the tires. alignment shocks. i just think its the weight of the truck.


goodluck

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