Hey been reading awhile, first time posting blah blah etc etc. I'm looking at getting a new truck, first diesel, for work and towing. Been a Chevy fanboy all my life but just seems like the Rams and Fords build much better trucks in the inside. If I wanted to be surrounded by plastic I'd just keep driving my trusty '99 1500. Proceeding....

I've test driven a Ram 2500 Laramie crew and a F-250 Lariat crew in the past week and loved both. They ride similar, comparable interiors with a slight edge to Ford. Love all the 12V locations and the 115V outlets. Both trucks will handle their workloads easily. Been playing with Cummins motors for awhile, love them and that's why I'm leading towards Ram right now. What is it about the Ford 6.7 that would change my mind?

Are the internals of the engine strong enough to handle power upgrades after the warranty expires, or would I wind up having to tear into it and replace connecting rods first? Basically, if I wanted to do rather simple things like plug in a tuner, do some deletions, upgrade the fuel (is there a dual CP4 upgrade yet?), and bolt on a compound turbo, would I have to worry about blowing crap up?

I have a mental disorder, once I start tinkering and adding power I can't be happy. People ask why I can't just settle for 400/800 numbers. They just don't understand that I want to be a step faster. Up to this point, I've been making recommendations to other diesel owners. Now I may finally be at a point where I can justify buying a new truck. So someone enlighten me here......how much can that 6.7 PSD handle past stock?

 

Depends how crazy you want to go...

6.7' powerstrokes seem hit and miss with the stock turbo, some have had issues with it, but it's mostly on hot tuned trucks. The turbo is about at it's limit stock. Other than that... the rods seem to exit the block at under 600hp, BUT I believe most of that is tuning. As the truck is out longer and tuning advances, it should raise that number. It was the same thing with 7.3's back in the day and even duramaxes. They used to bend rods at 550-600, now there's guys pushing over 700 on stock rods, I believe the 6.7 powerstroke will be the same. H&S has a shop truck now they've dyno'd about 600 rwhp on and it's on stock rods. SPE is also another company doing good things with the 6.7, and I assume Elite will have a slew of things coming out sometime in the near future. The trans no one has found the limit on yet... The rest of the truck is just super nice compared to the RAM, IMO.

 

Yup... If I had to pick between the two I would go with the Ford.

Interior is nicer in the Ford.

I do like the mega cab, but could not have a short bed.

 

Thanks, I'm going to go back and do some research on the early DMax engines this evening as well to see if there's a pattern. Any significant changes would be after warranty expires, and one of the local Ford dealers here has offered be a 40,000 mile dealer warranty after the 60,000 mile factory warranty expires, to equal the Ram warranty. The catch is that I would have to take it for inspection every 5000 miles which would just mean they look it over when I have it serviced.

I actually prefer the interior of the Ram to the Ford. None of the manufacturers are perfect. I realize that no matter how I go, work is eventually going to have to be done on the truck.

Are the fuel system issues really as bad as they seem on the 6.7 PSD? And wouldn't adding a FASS system or equivalent help fix those issues? Seems that they don't enjoy water too much (go figure).

 

All the Ford Diesels have a 100k motor warranty, not sure what they are trying to sell you but keep this in mind.

Go for a long drive in those dodge seats... Your *** will hurt.

There are no issues with the 6.7 fuel system, none any different then any other CR type motor, if you loose a CP3 pump its expensive... The 6.6, 6.7CR and 6.7PSD all use the same type of injection pump now.

 

My *** can take a lot of punishment. Wait.....did that sound as bad as it....sounded?

 

LOL