Alright long story here guys. Truck is a 2002 crew cab, 6spd, short box, 7.3. It has 433k on body, about 80k on motor. Truck has bully dog 6pos 4bank tuner, 1.0exhaust housing, stealth adrenaline hpop, intake, and exhaust.

Truck was driving fine. One day, it started acting goofy and shut down. Had the fuel injectors/lines purged of air. It ran fine for a few more days. Then it died on the side of the highway. Had it towed to Ford dealership. First they said IPR is shot. They replaced it (for a LOT of money). Didn't fix the truck. They said hpop is shot. Gonna be like 3 grand. Efffff that! So we picked up the truck. We bought a used hpop, and towed the truck to the house. We started tearing the stealth adrenaline hpop out, and out of curiousity, I pulled the oil dipstick. Just a smidge was barely touching the tip of it. Cleaned the dipstick, NOTHING was touching it. ZERO oil. We thought "sh*t, this hpop's fine, there's just no damn oil to fire the heui!". We put the stealth back together (didn't fill the hpop reservoir), filled up the fuel bowl (by cranking the motor), and we know there is oil flow because the pass-side head from the hpop wasn't in tight and it was flowing all over the head/valley. The truck took a good 2 gallons of oil to reach the Full mark on the dipstick.

Truck just cranks and cranks and cranks. We sprayed ether, the truck just cranked faster. The rpm's aren't registering upon cranking... and the oil-gauge does register a bit of oil when cranking it. All the fuses are intact.

I think the truck only smoked out the stack when we sprayed ether in there. We were cranking on the truck for a good hour, so we know for a fact there is oil in the reservoir/hpop, and fuel in the bowl. But it sounds electrical to me, since the ether didn't even wanna fire it.

Are we talking a cps here?

Matt

 

Another truck with no oil...?

 

Seems to be a pattern here

 

I was posting for a friend. It's not my truck. Any actual input?

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ALSO.. the truck took 2 gallons of oil to come up to the operating line.

 

Ok first question where'd the oil go? Leaks? Pretty sure driving around 8 qrts low isn't gonna help things any.

 

The truck was driven from TX to VA. Before it was driven from TX, it needed oil. I'm assuming it just mildly consumes it, and perhaps it does leak from somewhere.. but I believe it was an accumulation of him just not checking the oil and driving it to the point where it consumed/leaked that much out. But I think thats why the truck initially shut down; it wasn't pushing the heui injectors.

 

There is no such animal as a "Stealth Adrenaline HPOP"... There is a Dual Stealth pump, a new single Stealth pump and a DieselSite Adrenaline pump... It really doesnt matter right now but lets find out what pump you really have.



What did Ford do to come to the conclusion that it was a HPOP issue? What tests did they run? Find that out first. Ford may be on the right track.[/QUOTE]

...You do NOT need to crank on the motor to fill the fuel bowl or the injector rails. Thats why you have an electric fuel pump. Turn the key to the run pos, wait for about 30 seconds, do it again, wait, again, wait... Your fuel bowl and rails are now full. Then crank to fill the HPO rails.

Two gallons of oil means there was still 1.5 gallons of oil in the motor, not great, but still enough to fire and drive the truck. Low oil is not your issue, its an issue, but not the one.

And I am sure you know enough to NOT SPRAY STARTING FLUID WITH THE GLOW PLUGS HOOKED UP!!!

Stop cranking on it until you can check the HPO Pressure and duty cycle of the pump.

The fact that it was not smoking means nothing as to a dognostic, other then the injectors are not firing.

The PCM will not even send power to the injectors until there is 350psi of oil pressure. This leads me to believe that you have a HPO issue. Be it a bad HPOP as Ford suggested or a leaking injector or injectors...

Find someone with the proper scan tools and go from there.

 

^Wow dude your a beast with these things. I'll answer in segments also.


1. It's an adrenaline pump.. sorry about the confusion.

2. Ford hooked up some crazy plumbing onto the hpop system and ran some pressure-diagnostic. BUT, like I said there was 2gallons short in the crankcase.. how accurate could that test actually have been??

3. I figured as much, regarding the fuel bowl, but wasn't sure. Thanks for clearing that up. But I was reading on the site a week ago that some dude was 1.5gallons short of oil in the crank-case, and his truck wouldn't run until he topped off the oil.

4. Ford said that the hpop was bad due to putting out low pressure; but we figured since it was low on oil, they were full of isht and couldn't have accurately diagnosed it...

Now my question is, and everybody on the ORG is saying the same thing, if I spray ether into that motor.. EVEN if it's not injecting fuel, that ether will make that motor rumble to life. The ORG is saying that the motor must have NO compression for the ether to not make it start up?

 

In my experience that's false.. we had a straight truck at work with a 7.3 in it and it would not run on just ether. And I def kno it wasn't getting fuel because I had the fuel line off the pump diagnosing it.

 

Redddd ratttttler. Whats up buddy?
Thanks for the input. Thats interesting. What did the truck do while cranking on it and spraying it with ether? Just crank and crank and crank?