Can they deny your warranty claim on a pump and injectors for running red fuel???
From what I have researched they cannot as they don't know if you were running it on the highway or not and that isn't their place to say anyway.

I lost three injectors and a pump and they are trying to deny my claim as there was a mix of green/red fuel in it.

I see nowhere that you CANNOT run red in those trucks per warranty guidelines.

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TTT Im curious as well

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No they cannot deny warranty for using off-road fuel, UNLESS the fuel sample contains above 500ppm sulphur content, which the max allowable content rating for the 6.0 fuel system. Many 6.0 trucks are ran completely off-highway and are never licensed so there's no legal way to do it. KEEP IN MIND many people's off-road storage tanks (you know the kind) aren't the greatest in terms of cleanliness and I've personally witnessed the miraculous coincidence of trucks with legal off-road fuel from a sulphur PPM standpoint showing contamination that caused the failures....take that FWIW.

However, because of the issues with running off-road fuel in a vehicle licensed for highway use, if pushed, some dealerships have been known to 'squeal' on the owners to the IRS and DOT.

For example, when I worked for Uhlmanns up in Chehalis we did all the work on the coal mine pickups, which ran red fuel. Never an issue. When North Fork Timber, DaPaul, or Weyco came in with red fuel, the service advisors became morality police.....

In South Dakota, same situation. Farm plates, a-OK. SD highway tags, no-no mister!....

It's a pick your battle thing--if you take on FoMoCo regarding the warranty denial, they have leverage with the off-road fuel....up to you and however good your lawyers are.

Hope this helps,

Dan

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Thanks Dan!!!!

As my truck was vandalized(windows shot out) the service writer is gonna push that off on the fuel system too.

No prob,

Columbia Ford dare I ask?

Yeah it's them.......

The one good thing I have going for me is that one of the top dawgs in management (Gerry Treffery) and I are good friends so we'll see.

Radio Flyer is exactly right. It's not the colour of your fuel that matters, it's the sulphur content. In fact the lack of ULSD in the US was/is one of the primary causes of the PS 6.0 failures.

Also, you should replace the square air filter (on any vehicle actually) with one of the aftermarket round of cone shaped intake and filter replacement kits. (something that looks like the K&N models)
The square intake filters are worthless. After some use, they flex on the side and let air (and dirt) slip past them and into the engine.

The dealership here has had zero warranty replacements on the PS 6.0. Mainly because the owner called International and asked them what was wrong with them. Basically they said that nothing was wrong when they left the factory. It was Ford that screwed them up.

Here's what they do to make them live.

- Replace the intake system with a round/cone type aftermarket model
- Replace the fluids with synthetics (Amsoil usually, but any good, _real_ synthetic should work)
- Train customers:
to use ULSD (Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel) ONLY
to use proper fuels and additives when necessary (winter, etc.)
to observe all service intervals (especially fuel and oil filter changes)
to use synthetics
to do warm ups and cool downs


Hope this helps someone.

The 6.0 doesn't have a square intake filter -- the design of the stock 6.0 is a cone filter and filters VERY well, some say up to about 500 HP worth of air before you EVER need to change it... do the Zoodad mod and buy an aftermarket filter to put in your oem houseing and you'll be rockin and rollin!

As far as the fuel --they "shouldn't" be able to void your warranty - but anything is possible. They have to "prove" that it cuased the failure though, its just all about how long you want to go without a truck while its strung out in court.

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Its a deal that has to do with the law. I would have to look to see if it is a warrenty thing. I do know that the higher concentration of sulpher is not good in the newer stuff. However the if it is regesterd to be on the road and it has red fuel in it there is a big big big fine that will automatically be handed to you.

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Originally Posted by Dusten I do look at the gauge jackass!

Thats right on Jon, but why do these dealerships think they are the offroad fuel police?!?!

I really cant answer that. I dont get excited about stuff unless it was part of the problem.

Liability. They're nervous...that's pretty much it really.

That still doesn't make sense to me... how are they liable to the police? Do they call the police if you have a broken taillamp or headlamp? No...

so why would they feel the need to call about dyed fuel?? doesn't make sense to me and quite frankly I'd be finding a new dealership.

They wouldn't call the Police,but the DMV.
The DMV are the one's that inforce the fuel laws and if you are caught running off road fuel in a highway use vehicle it is a STEAP penalty.
It's all about the highway taxes buddy

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