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New engine 03 6.0L Starts won't stay running

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Old 08-29-2013, 03:52 PM
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Installed new J&K engine , starts but loads cylinder with fuel and kills itself. First time it happened #8 was full, second time #6. Code reads #8 Ckt is low. Replaced #8 injector. Has EGR delete kit. Truck sat for about 11/2 years, only 88,xxx miles , could it be a PCM problem.
 
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:28 PM
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could be loose injectors or bad injector cups
 
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:41 PM
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When I installed the engine I installed new O-rings and copper washers on all the injectors, everything was torqued to spec.
 
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:44 PM
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You re-oring the injectors when swapping old to new engine? compression gasket on tip of injector? Torque down injectors to spec? When you changed #8 was the orings torn or burnt off, was tip cracked?

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When I installed the engine I installed new O-rings and copper washers on all the injectors, everything was torqued to spec.
I see you answered that part. what cylinder is misfiring now, 8 still? ckt low is either injector or FICM not pcm
 

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Old 08-30-2013, 02:36 PM
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Injector #8 had bad plug on it, that was the reason to replace it. Still get the code for #8 ckt low. #6 doesn't bring up any codes but was filled with fuel. Removed glow plug to clear cylinder, restarted , ran for a few minutes and locked up. Haven't checked yet to see which cylinder is full this time. You say the problem might be the FICM , is there anyway to check it or test it.
 
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Old 08-30-2013, 03:07 PM
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Well the FICM is what actually controls and fires the injector so if its keeping the injector on that would cause the fuel loading. I have never seen a ficm keep and injector sticking on though. Clear cylinders then leave inj 6 and 8 unplugged see if it stays running then go from there. Your sure they got new copper gaskets at the injector tips? Anytime we see a ficm throw inj ckt low codes the dc-dc convertor inside is going and then it will set, with new calibrations it will also set a p0611 FICM performance since now they are watching the voltage 45v or less and its toast. Should be 48.5 to 50.5 is the range I am seeing on good ficm's. It really sounds like a fuel o-ring or coppper gasket issue to me or not being torqued down right. Lets just put it this way any time I have fuel in the cylinder locking it up it has always been a cracked injector tip or injector fuel o-rings. A cracked injector cup is possible but have never seen it personally. Is the Head and everything new reman longblock?
 
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Old 08-30-2013, 03:34 PM
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I had a local mechanic look at FICM , he found it had 47.5 volts , he said it was OK. But it sounds like it might low. The block and heads are from J & K Engines from Nashville, TN , they reman and assemble the engine with ARP studs (they only work on 6.0L and 6.4L ford Diesels). The other parts come from the original engine. I put all new orings and copper gaskets on the injectors when I reinstalled them. I'll clear the cylinders and try unplugging those injectors and get back to you. Thank You very much for the info.
 

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Old 08-30-2013, 03:57 PM
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the ficm voltage needs to be monitored on a cold start engine and either brake torque or a good romp from a stop sign thats when it dips low, at idle or koeo it will show 48 volts no problem and still be bad. You must stress it.
 
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Old 08-30-2013, 05:24 PM
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I checked glow plugs #6 & #8. #8 was dry, #6 was wet, cleared cylinder and unplugged #6 injector. Started engine, same thing happened , ran for a few minutes and locked up. I think I'll change out #6 injector. I have a few extras, the 1st engine broke a valve, both heads had to be replaced, used heads came with injectors.
 
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Old 08-30-2013, 07:03 PM
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Yes change the injector for sure if you have known good ones. Check that cup while you are in there.
 


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