Ideas for engine swap for Bronco

5.9Bronco...eventually · #1 12-28-2009, 09:52 PM

ok guys I have posted alot in the Cummins sections but now I want alot of opinions on what engine would be best for a Ford Bronco.

I have a 95 Ford Bronco that is running out of life. It has 195k on it with stock everything except intake filter and exhaust.

I want a solid DD that gets decent mileage and has some good power. I want to be able to tune it up and down to show off, dyno, and race but still be streetable. It is going to be an automatic built to handle whatever power is thrown at it.

I just want some ideas, everything but a dmax that is. I dont drive like an idiot I dont go around romping on it and doing other stupid stuff. I just race every once in awhile with friends and some aholes on the highway.

I always get blown away seeing as how my speedo goes to 90 and it can only go 100mph ha.

So any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

FTE · #2 12-28-2009, 11:12 PM

4bt,there are alot of guys out there with them in bronco/f150s cummins makes an adapter for the sb ford bellhousing. Alot of bread/chip step vans were re-powered in the 80's. They fit with minor mods and arnt too heavy for the stock suspension. They can be tweaked for more power and get great fuel mileage.

5.9Bronco...eventually · #3 12-28-2009, 11:16 PM

yea I am looking for something a lil unique but a 4bt isnt out of the question

**bajabomber87** · #4 12-29-2009, 01:19 AM

You're welcome

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5.9Bronco...eventually · #5 12-29-2009, 09:50 AM

again thanks I am just trying to get alot of ideas and then seeing how much and how easy it would be to throw her in there. I am just ready for the money to start this project!

and a good idea of what I am really gonna build. Ive been thinking its down to a 4bt, maybe a 24V but prolly not, a Cummins CR, a 7.3, 6.0 or maybe even a 6.4 or 6.7 scorpion when Ford finally releases it. I really dont want a duramaxipad. I take back the 6.0 its not really an option for this build. maybe in another project

5.9Bronco...eventually · #6 12-30-2009, 11:47 PM

well guys I think for right now I have decided to do a 6.4 build since no one has done that yet. I just need the funds ha. Maybe Ford will sponsor the build ha!

I decided I am going to keep my Bronco and just get a Bronco body from a junkyard or something and use a shortend frame from the donor truck.

Im thinking find a wrecked or salvage title 6.4 in stock trim shorten the frame, lift it a lil, at least far enough to get some 33 or 35s on it, take all the emissions crap off, and put a spartan tuner on it since its the best from what I have read. Its gonna get full gauges even though the dashdaq has gauges.

Pretty much everything from the diesel truck will go in the Bronco...or at least thats what I am thinking right now. Again now just the funds need to show up on my doorstep.

Anyone know what all I might need to think about when doing this? I havent really seen under the hood of the 6.4 superduty yet to know any measurements or anything.

Thanks in advance and for everyone that has commented on this so far

**DieselCrawler** · #7 12-31-2009, 02:21 PM

gona be a tight squeeze!

5.9Bronco...eventually · #8 12-31-2009, 06:41 PM

yea but I figure if a 7.3 can fit a 6.4 wont have that much trouble either

CheaperJeeper · #9 12-31-2009, 06:48 PM

This is a full-sized Bronco, right? If so, why not build a 6.9L IDI turbo and put in it? They are cheap to buy and cheap to build. ARP head studs and a decent aftermarket wastegated turbo will get you good solid power numbers.

The 6.9L came with a C6, but a lot of the 7.3L trucks came with an e40d 4-speed auto, that with a little tweaking can be a pretty robust tranny - especially pushing the lighter Bronco chassis (rather than a heavier F250/F350) - and has an OD & lockup TC.

A 6.9L with a e40d will also get around ~20mpg - not bad for a full-size rig.

**tltruckparts** · #10 01-01-2010, 12:48 AM

6.9l's are garbage. i have one in my garage with an ats you can have it for free, hell i even have a 7.3 IDI here too. my cummins walk all over it all day long. they are weak on power as well. if your not going for a 6.0, throw a 6bt cummins in it. IDI diesels dont come close to the other diesels.

ive owned all ford, chevy and dodge diesels, so it isnt just a biased opinion

if your going through all the work to put it in, do it once, do it right and most importantly do something your happy with. dont throw a crap diesel in and wish you wouldve done it differently, thats never any fun

CheaperJeeper · #11 01-01-2010, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by tltruckparts

6.9l's are garbage. i have one in my garage with an ats you can have it for free, hell i even have a 7.3 IDI here too...

Where are you located? If its within 500 miles I'll take you up on that offer - seriously.
The IDIs aren't the most powerful out there but you can't beat them for simplicity and inexpensive/easy repair and maintenance...

**bajabomber87** · #12 01-01-2010, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by CheaperJeeper

This is a full-sized Bronco, right? If so, why not build a 6.9L IDI turbo and put in it? They are cheap to buy and cheap to build. ARP head studs and a decent aftermarket wastegated turbo will get you good solid power numbers.

You forgot this part

Originally Posted by 5.9Bronco...eventually

I want to be able to tune it up and down to show off, dyno, and race but still be streetable.

**tltruckparts** · #13 01-01-2010, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by CheaperJeeper

Where are you located? If its within 500 miles I'll take you up on that offer - seriously.
The IDIs aren't the most powerful out there but you can't beat them for simplicity and inexpensive/easy repair and maintenance...

im alot further than that from you. and you dont want it. its got 240,000 miles on it. my grandpa bought it new and in that time tis had 2 head jobs, three trannys, 4 injectors pumps, 3 sets of glow plugs, and 3 sets of injectors. he wasted more money on this stupid truck than i can ever believe. so as for easy repair and maintenance i dont know where you get that from.

have you ever actually worked on one yourself? they suck. there are so many vacuum lines and stupid stuff everywhere it makes working on them a nightmare. especially with a turbo on them there isnt room for anything

Originally Posted by bajabomber87

You forgot this part

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CheaperJeeper · #14 01-01-2010, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by tltruckparts

im alot further than that from you. and you dont want it. its got 240,000 miles on it. my grandpa bought it new and in that time tis had 2 head jobs, three trannys, 4 injectors pumps, 3 sets of glow plugs, and 3 sets of injectors. he wasted more money on this stupid truck than i can ever believe. so as for easy repair and maintenance i dont know where you get that from.

have you ever actually worked on one yourself? they suck. there are so many vacuum lines and stupid stuff everywhere it makes working on them a nightmare. especially with a turbo on them there isnt room for anything

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Heck yeah I've worked on them - I currently have an 86 in my driveway. Dunno what compicated vacuum lines you're talking about - mine's got a couple from the vac pump to the reservior cannister and then to the braking system and that's about it. Electrically it has a facet pump, manually operated glowplugs (pushbutton) a starter solenoid and a couple of connections to the IP (cold start advance and fuel cutoff). Couldn't be simpler.

What I like is I can buy a full set of reman injectors and a reman pump for the same price as 1 or 2 of the electronic injectors in the newer trucks.

But you're right, if he wants to be able to tune it and detune it at will an IDI isn't what he wants. No computer means no quick tuning changes. Of course it also means no computer to go wrong and leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere...

**tltruckparts** · #15 01-01-2010, 02:21 PM

parts are definitely cheaper you got that one right on the head. but IMO they are a headache to work one. like i said especially with a turbo on em you cant get to anything.

my 12 valve cummins is a million times easier to work on and easier to find parts for as well. and much easier to upgrade.

with the large 6.9l diesels theyre huge motors. the advantage of an L6 is its half the swidth, leaving much more room to work and add stuff under the hood

not to mention the IDI diesels arent even intercooled at that. and as for computers i never have computer problems, especially with a manual trans there isnt hardly anything on a 12 valve

with the 6.9L IDI with an ATS turbo, new injection pump and injectors, running perfect, ran 120 horse and 180 ft lbs of torque

not too impressive in my book

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