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Ok guys I got a tough one and I hope yall can help me out. I'll go into as much detail as possible and if anyone has any questions for me please ask. So here goes, I was drivin home from class yesterday and got ... JOIN NOW TO REMOVE TRACER

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Old 11-07-2009, 08:08 PM
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Ok guys I got a tough one and I hope yall can help me out. I'll go into as much detail as possible and if anyone has any questions for me please ask.

So here goes, I was drivin home from class yesterday and got stopped up by a car makin a left. After the car got cleared I gassed it and blew the normal amount of black smoke out then when I let off the accelerator the engine shut down and has not made a pop since. I rewired some stuff comin off the battery beacuse of corroded wires and put a new connector on the unit on the drivers side of the injection pump and no luck. So I pulled the main feed fuel line off the front of the injector pump and cranked it over, plenty of fuel there. The oil has no diesel fuel in it. I cracked the injector lines and cranked it over. It had a lil bit of air but fuel popping off all 6 injector lines. Tightened them all back up, tried to start and it wont fire and no visible smoke out of the exhaust. We also pulled the #1 and #5 valve covers off just to make sure the cam was turning and everything looked good. The turbo is spinning freely and the truck seems like its got good compression by how hard the starter is workin cranking the truck over. Ive never had to crank on it that much cuz it usually fires right up with a touch of the key. I dont have a fuel pressure gauge, I know Iknow, I need to get one but there seems to be plenty of fuel. So if anybody has any ideas on what the problem could be all help would be greatly appreciated. I think I covered everything oh BTW its a 1989 Dodge 250 4x4. It has always run like a top and I definitely need it back. Thanks for the help.

I forgot to mention Ive got 12 volts goin to the fuel shutoff solenoid. Checked with a multimeter

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Old 11-08-2009, 07:04 AM
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might be pulling air @ fuel heater o'ring if loose or if o'ring is bad

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any fuel leaks?

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Old 11-08-2009, 04:51 PM
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You may have 12V but that doesn't mean its not stuck. It certainly sounds like something with the pump. A bad cam or bottom end would give you totally different issues. Basically, if you have nothing coming out of the exhaust, then nothing is going in. Worst case right now is you may have to put a pump on it.

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Old 11-09-2009, 12:26 AM
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This is my buddys truck i helped him try to get it going we opened the main fuel line on the pump and there was fuel coming out. we dont think it could be a timing issue cause its all gear driven the thing that im leaning toward is that the pump might have just quit. There is fuel there at the injectors it just wont make a signs of firing at all not one little pop!!!

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Old 11-09-2009, 01:13 AM
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i feel your pain man i have had 100% of the exact same problems you are having. happened to me last week was running fine and then boom stalled at idle and wouldnt fire since. same story, power to everything fuel at the injectors with a little air and cam is turning. had a diesel tech come check it out and the injection pump is shot. definitely not what i wanted to hear at all but thats what it was. sounds like your having the same problem.

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Old 11-09-2009, 06:37 PM
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I'll start working on it again tomorrow. Ive been playin with the FAA all day today
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:42 PM
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try sending 12 volts to the fuel solenoid and listen for a slight click. Basically make sure the fuel solenoid is actually working you can have power there but nothing happening

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Old 11-09-2009, 08:36 PM
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Jason, gut the fuel shut off solinoid and report back!

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Old 11-09-2009, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RSWORDS View Post
Jason, gut the fuel shut off solinoid and report back!
will the pump still put some fuel out even with the solenoid not working? because he said there was a little bit of air but still had fuel coming out of the injector lines. mine did the same thing.
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:41 PM
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Yes, but not enough to get to pop off pressure
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RSWORDS View Post
Yes, but not enough to get to pop off pressure
im going to laugh when thats was the problem all along in my truck and no one figured that out. but thats ok its an excuse to the wife to get a higher output pump and bigger injectors
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Old 11-11-2009, 04:06 PM
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Does anybody have a diagram or picture of the fuel shutoff solenoid. Do I just unscrew the 1" nut holding it in and pull the whole thing out and gut it or what. Gonna work on it tomorrow all day cuz I dont have classes tomorrow

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Nevermind I found some good info on it

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Old 11-12-2009, 12:51 PM
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Any luck jason?
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Old 11-12-2009, 03:57 PM
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Not yet cant get the fuel shutoff solenoid out. It is tighter than hell and its hard to get the wrench on it exactly right so its starting to round off. Any suggesstions?

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Now that I've got that bracket out of the way i turned the key on and disconected and reconnected the wire a few times and I dont hear or feel anything clicking at all so atleast I think im headed in the right direction if I can just get the damn thing off of there

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There is a tab thats cast in the housing above teh solinoid, you can grind that off for more room. Wont hurt anything
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