Yeah thats basically what I am looking for... If I cant find something reasonable before too long then I may just bail on the diesel idea and get a gas jobber. I have always wanted to own a diesel and will eventually need to get it out of my system. It seems as though there is so much more to consider than just buying a gas jobber.....

 

Gas motors are more upkeep (oil is 3000 miles vs 5000 in a diesel). A diesel is easily good for 400k, if not more. A gas is pushing it at 300k. And with the new gas motors, they all have problems, more than diesels. My mom owns a 2007 chevy 1500 with a 5.3. That motor eats oil, and it turns off 4 cylinders for gas milage, and it causes carbon build up on the pistons, and the rings. And over time can corrode through the cylinder walls. And it gets 14 mpg. As to where my dads 04.5 gets 17. And it's a dually! There is a lot to look for in every motor.

 

youre probably right, its just the horror stories of people blowing injectors and having to drop 4k +- or head gaskets left and right yada yada yada.... I know that gj have issues too... I guess I am not freaked out by them because I am more familiar with them..... I work with a guy who has a 99 7.3 and he swears by it... other than that every one I know seems, to be totally petrified of them... Like I posted before I am only really interested in mpg from the diesel... not going to tow much. I spoke recently with the local diesel shop, they usually do big rigs, and he said basically go cummins or gm. His exact words were " stay the **** away from a 6.0 ..." Haha.. I found that interesting to say the least.... and I'll say it again I am not brand bashing at all because I have never owned any of the big three ( ford, gm, dodge) I think what I will do is once I find a decent deal I will bring it to a local diesel mech. and have them give it a good solid look over ... other than that I feel like I am basically throwing a big hail Mary....

 

Can you drive a stick? In all honesty the cummins is a great motor, but their automatics are terrible. And their cheaper to repair, and a normal person can work on them. But the 6.7 cummins has problems. Our neighbor has a 6.7 cummins with a 6 speed. It's got around 110k and the check engine light has come on twice. And all he pulls is a horse trailer. Another thing is, any diesel can last as long as their maintained. I'd rather have a truck with 300k that has been maintained than a truck with 200k that was ran to ****. We had a cummins before this duramax, and it had a new 5.9. Because the guy took it fourwheeling, busted an oil line, ran it with no oil pressure, trashed it.

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2006 Silverado 2500HD Duramax Diesel mid 20s is high. This guy is only about a grand or 2 too high.

 

yeah stick is no issue.... its not the cummins that I have an issue with its the truck thats around it haha... I tested a 2010 cummins years back and really didnt like the interior much at all. To be honest I didnt like anything at all about the truck itself. I like the looks and the stance of fords the most and the interior of the gm's the best. And, like you said its hard to know what the previous owner did to truck before you buy it... oh well I guess I will keep looking...... I recently found an 03 2500hd ext cab with 125k but they want $17900... that seem a little high still....

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to add to that... the same site had an 04 chevy 2500 crew with the same miles on it as the ford f350 and it was 10k more to purchase on the button!!! thats a huge cost difference!!

 

Do you know if the injectors had been changed? And if its in good shape, 16,500$ is a good price. Low miles is a big deal. And does it have. Gooseneck? That's the tell tale sign if a trucks pulled heavy. And if they have bed liners, always pull me up and look under. Kids put stacks in them, take me out and put a bed liner in it. Stacks by a kid means its been ran. Buy an adult with a few jingles in their pocket can mean they had the money for. Show truck.

 

Dude, whatever you do, stay away from ford psd. The only thing my ford 6.0 psd did for me was constantly break down, and because of that, I got an 06 CTD and I never looked back. I have a dually and it gets great fuel milage, pulls like a bulldozer, lots of torque at much lower RPMs than PSD and DMax. You can pull a house off its foundation and get good fuel mileage doing it. Albeit, the interiors of the Dodge arent as nice as Duramax or Ford, but I gave up a little comfort for durability, and reliability. OH yeah, they're much easier to service and maintain to boot.
If youre hell-bent on a ford, try to find an older ford with the 7.3 PSD. Its way way better than the 6.0 Whatever you decide on, research research research!!!

 

big redd,

Yeah man thats what I am trying to do here is research the hell out of this before I buy. I know that the 7.3's are a fairly good motor, but I cant seem to find many around here that arent totally beat to ****..... Now how do you all feel about a 6.0 psd after it has had all the master solution mods done so it is more dependable like the 7.3? does this really seem to solve problems or is it just polishing a turd ?

Thanks

 

The 6.0 can be a good engine, BUT you have to spend mucho chaching to address all its issues.......and there are several. I dont like the idea of only having 4 head bolts per cylinder in the 6.0. More is definately better. Even with studs, there's no guarantee you wont lift the heads with higher boost pressures. Polishing a turd pretty much covers it. 7.3s are pretty darned good engines, but like you said, a bit hard to find. Have you given any thought to a Fummins or Chummins? (Ford + cummins = Fummins, Chevy + cummins + Chummins) Kinda the best of two worlds. If youre not in a real hurry, keep looking.

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Dont get me wrong, Fords have really nice interiors and bitchin looks, but the 6.0 is crap.

 

haha I would assume that fummins and chummins are a ford and a chevy with a cummins motor? That would prob be the best of both worlds like you said !!! Are they reliable? does the engine drop in and remain reliable in a different truck ? sems like a ton of effort, but a good enough ida i guess