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Old 04-19-2009, 08:49 PM
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Hey ya'll.. Im getting ready to start making my shop customized inside, but before i do, i need to fix the water problem that I have. My shop is 30' wide x 50' long. with a 18' door on each end. The problem is that when we get anything resembling a heavy rain, the water running off my driveway seeps under the front main door into the shop. So I want to build a small concrete ditch that runs the width of the front and just around the corner..

My concrete knowledge is limited to cementing in posts.. so I figure someone here has done some concrete work and can offer advice. I want the ditch to be about 6" deep, and 6-8" wide, and I have some expanded metal to put over it, so I can still drive across.

The best i can figure, is to get a little trackhoe, and dig about 12" wide and 12" deep.. but how can I make the sides of the concrete stand up? Am I making any sense?

Most auto shops have these, so when they wash the shop floor out, the water/junk goes thru the expanded metal into the ditch and away, instead of into their parkinglot..
 
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Old 04-19-2009, 08:55 PM
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you need someting like this

 
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Old 04-19-2009, 08:58 PM
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Old 04-19-2009, 09:07 PM
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and look it has sheep already KC



My concrete skills are about the same as yours, i would say you should build some type of frame to lay it in and make your form
 
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Old 04-19-2009, 09:11 PM
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this is what I was thinking.. but i dont know where to start except for digging the ditch ..

I used my awesome MS Paint skillz to make this.
 
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Old 04-19-2009, 10:41 PM
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Dig ditch. Pour a slab in bottom with rebar sticking up on sides for your walls. Allow to cure overnight. Make a set of forms up that will make your walls, pour walls. Just like a minature basement. Or, make a U shaped form and pour all at once. That would be harder. If this is going to take a beating, you need about 4" thick walls with rebar, 6 sack concrete. I used to run concrete trucks, don't like the ground work though! Essential tip:
coat your forms with a combination of diesel and motor oil, mostly diesel. Otherwise will never come apart!
 
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Thanks for the tip.. that is somewhat close to what I was thinking.. but without the rebar.. is that essential? Will the concrete hold up without it?
 
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the rebar gives it the tensional strength it needs to support the truck driving over it all the time.
 
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Old 04-19-2009, 11:51 PM
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the reason they use rebar is because it gives it strength and because its steel. steel has the same exact to the thousanth of a percentage on expansion and contraction rate as concrete, thats why they use it
 

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