If you can only own 1 gun what would it be?? - Page 3

Big_Johnson · #31 11-22-2008, 01:37 PM

I'm with cdennyb. i'm more of a kill you from 1000yards away kinda guy. BUT i wouldn't pick the barret .50 cal. i'd rather have something more accurate. plus, you can't hunt for food with it cause the bullet is so large and traveling so fast there is a good chance it will just blow up anything smaller than a dog, or just put a giant hole in that big buck you got scoped in.

So I would either go with a M40A3, or a Dragunov. sure i'll take a desert eagle but i won't need it unless somone sneeks up behind me.

tell ya what cdennyb you face one way and i'll face the other and we'll just pick people off. that way we don't have to deal with "well what about close combat?"

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gunman41mag · #32 11-22-2008, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by dieseldude03

My little brother has an old Savage model 24 (i think). It's an over/under with a .30-30 on top and 20-gauge shotgun on bottom. It has fully adjustable rifle sights and is drilled and tapped for scope mounts. As stated above, the .30-30 loaded with a good ballistic tip type bullet would be good out to about 300 yds or so and with the rifle being a break-open single shot, there's no reason why you couldn't use the pointed bullet.

Now if you have a .30-30 with a tubular magazine, like a marlin or winchester lever action, the only SAFE pointed bullet that can be used is Hornady's new LeverEvolution ammo with the Flex Tip bullets. Any other pointed bullet can, and will, detonate the primer of the cartridge in front of it and the whole magazine can go up in your face! The problem with the LeverEvolution ammo is it's pretty expensive when compared to "regular" ammo and Hornady hasn't released the flex-tip bullets as reloading components.

HI dieseldude03, The SAVAGE 24, is a great survival rifle, you have a rifle & shotgun all in one, The only down side is, two shots a & you have to reload, I like a gun with MORE FIRE-POWER, It has to be able to fire at least 4 to 5 rounds before you need a reload. -

**Mr. Miyagi** · #33 11-22-2008, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by gunman41mag

MR. Miyagi, WHY a SHOTGUN ???? EVEN a semi-auto shotgun, The shotgun is a short-range weapon, even with slugs, it mite be a 200 yard weapon, it kicks like a monster, and buck-shot will only be lethal at less than 30 yards !!! and they are not accurate, when you need a pinpoint head shot. Don't get me wrong, I have shotguns, pumps and semi-auto with mags.

When one gun--only one, single gun--is available to perform all necessary functions of a firearm, ie door breeching, long range shooting, close range combat, hunting for small, medium, and large game, personal protection, "fear factor", blowing locks off sheds to get to supplies.......I highly doubt there is any centerfire or rimfire modern firearm that can match all the variables a shotgun is capable of handling.

A Mossberg 500 with three for four interchangeable barrels and extended shell tube would probably be the best choice actually.

As far as recoil goes, that's the beauty of 2 3/4", 3", heavy shot, light shot, target loads, game loads, full power loads....plus in a SHTF situation pretty much every home, business, store, and probably vehicle out there has at least one round of 12ga in it some place.

Need to throw a screen of death out there? Find some broken glass, metal lathe shavings, or even some rocks, and pour them down the barrel on top of a 3" 00 buck Federal LE Flight Control wad and watch the carnage. Pour additional "help" down the barrel of a M1A and that's exactly what you'll need.....help. -

Woody35 · #34 11-22-2008, 03:06 PM

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were talkin like in desperate times a shotgun will be better than a AK. there are so many different types of ammo you can use in a 12 gauge and there are tons of it around. you can kill a multipude of animals without damaging the actual body too bad so you can hunt with it.

yeah it may be not accurate at more than 200 something yards but remember AK isnt excalty a great rifle in terms of accuracy. besides in close comabt a shotgun is going to clean a room better than any AK because it can take a person down with one shot.

any ways if i only have one weapon im not getting into a firefight so the only thing im going to shooting at are people close to me and occasionally more than 150 yards to go for food.

AK-47 might be the greatest assault rifle in the world when talking about its longetivty and price to make it but the only thing its good at is in a firefight. -

gunman41mag · #35 11-22-2008, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Big_Johnson

I'm with cdennyb. i'm more of a kill you from 1000yards away kinda guy. BUT i wouldn't pick the barret .50 cal. i'd rather have something more accurate. plus, you can't hunt for food with it cause the bullet is so large and traveling so fast there is a good chance it will just blow up anything smaller than a dog, or just put a giant hole in that big buck you got scoped in.

So I would either go with a M40A3, or a Dragunov. sure i'll take a desert eagle but i won't need it unless somone sneeks up behind me.

tell ya what cdennyb you face one way and i'll face the other and we'll just pick people off. that way we don't have to deal with "well what about close combat?"

HI Big Johnson, The M40A3, nice sniper rifle, BUT you don't want to get into a fire-fight at close range, cause of the scope, as for the Dragunov, the 7.62X54 is not an easy round to find, BUT at least it's semi-auto, has decent accuracy !!!! -

Big_Johnson · #36 11-22-2008, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by gunman41mag

HI Big Johnson, The M40A3, nice sniper rifle, BUT you don't want to get into a fire-fight at close range, cause of the scope, as for the Dragunov, the 7.62X54 is not an easy round to find, BUT at least it's semi-auto, has decent accuracy !!!!

well they both have very good accuracy. and why would i get into a close range fire-fight? if i see someone that i think is threatening i'll take him down hundreds of yards away from me and he wont know what hit him. as far as ammo goes. if the whole world is at war. if it's every man for himself it's gonna be pure luck to make it long enough to worry about how much ammo you have left. but if there are sides to this war. i think if your side will be able to get you the ammo to whatever gun you are carrying. it really just depends on what situation you are in. and i'm sure i could team up with the AK guy and some of these shotties and we'd be a okay for any kind of fire-fight. whether it's close range, a bunch of people, or a bunch of people 800 yards away. the gun depends mainly on the situation. -

Woody35 · #37 11-22-2008, 10:08 PM

so let me get this straight. if dieselbombers were at war we would have snipers armed with Dragunov and M40A3 sniper rifles taking enemys out at hundreds of yards away . and on the ground we would have shotguns with interchangeable barrels and a 9mm or desert eagle pistol as a sidearm -

gunman41mag · #38 11-22-2008, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Big_Johnson

well they both have very good accuracy. and why would i get into a close range fire-fight? if i see someone that i think is threatening i'll take him down hundreds of yards away from me and he wont know what hit him. as far as ammo goes. if the whole world is at war. if it's every man for himself it's gonna be pure luck to make it long enough to worry about how much ammo you have left. but if there are sides to this war. i think if your side will be able to get you the ammo to whatever gun you are carrying. it really just depends on what situation you are in. and i'm sure i could team up with the AK guy and some of these shotties and we'd be a okay for any kind of fire-fight. whether it's close range, a bunch of people, or a bunch of people 800 yards away. the gun depends mainly on the situation.

HI Big Johnson, I agree with you about engaging at 1000 yards instead of face to face, BUT maybe the enemy will sneak up on you !!! You have to sleep, shit, and shower, anyways I have alot of sniper rifles, my 50 BMG are heavy, you don't want to carry a 44 pound rifle, plus ammo !!! my McMillan 300 win. mag, with LEUPOLD MARK 4 4.5-14X50 is accurate, but still heavy about 13 pounds. Would like a sniper rifle weighing 7 pounds including a scope !!!
BUT the bottom line is your going to need help from you friend, when do-do hits the fan !!! -

Big_Johnson · #39 11-22-2008, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Woody35

so let me get this straight. if dieselbombers were at war we would have snipers armed with Dragunov and M40A3 sniper rifles taking enemys out at hundreds of yards away . and on the ground we would have shotguns with interchangeable barrels and a 9mm or desert eagle pistol as a sidearm

yes sir! but you can't forget the AK.

it's just as important as everything else

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Originally Posted by gunman41mag

HI Big Johnson, I agree with you about engaging at 1000 yards instead of face to face, BUT maybe the enemy will sneak up on you !!! You have to sleep, shit, and shower, anyways I have alot of sniper rifles, my 50 BMG are heavy, you don't want to carry a 44 pound rifle, plus ammo !!! my McMillan 300 win. mag, with LEUPOLD MARK 4 4.5-14X50 is accurate, but still heavy about 13 pounds. Would like a sniper rifle weighing 7 pounds including a scope !!!
BUT the bottom line is your going to need help from you friend, when do-do hits the fan !!!

yeah but those .50 cals are alot heavier than my 2 choices. and yeah i'll get someone to watck my back. i'm fine with that. wont hurt my ego at all havin someone else to help out

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Ramprat · #40 11-23-2008, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by LOGANSTANFORTH

the only weapon you really need is yourself........everything else are just tools......

That ain't no lie, lots of talk in this here thread no doubt about that & chances are the biggest talkers won't last 5 min once the fur starts flying

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**akguppy** · #41 11-23-2008, 01:34 AM

I'd have to go with a Tactical AR15 for a 1-weapon arsenal. You have to remember it has to be transportable, somewhat concealable, lightweight, able to be used in close quarters as well as at long ranges.

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**Mr. Miyagi** · #42 11-23-2008, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by Ramprat

That ain't no lie, lots of talk in this here thread no doubt about that & chances are the biggest talkers won't last 5 min once the fur starts flying

Here we are in a nice mature debate about weaponry and some smart ass had to go and make it personal.

Well, I know who I'd shoot first.

(just kidding)...

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SmokinPiney · #43 11-23-2008, 01:45 AM

All i gotta say anymore is, gunman..... do you research every gun that someone say's they'd choose. Cause you sure do seem to know everything about every single gun and every situation you could possibly ever be in.

Oh and as far as my "lucky shot". Must have been "lucky" quite a few times then. It's called hittin your target.. -

**Mr. Miyagi** · #44 11-23-2008, 01:55 AM

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Big_Johnson · #45 11-23-2008, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. Miyagi

War and self reliance on a single firearm the same are not said once on other planet great Yoda in movie did he.

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