Hydrogen Peroxide injection?? for more oxygen for fuel to burn
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Did a little research:
During WWII the germans used the so called: T- Stoff and K-Stoff to propell the Me 163, the first rocket propelled jet engine.
T and K Stoff as known as H2O2 and sulphur acid are extremly dangerous to handle, each one sepeperated is easily to wash away with water- the combination of both a very dangerous acid which burns nearly through everything real quick.
80 % of all planes exploded with the maintaining crew...
I don't know, if it is a good idea to use H2O2?
Pure O² reacts with nearly everything- that means aluminum pistons will melt quickly.
Thats the reason they use NOS: to decrease the amount of O² and to have a cooling gas to avoid overheating.
By the the way, can you guess who has invented the NOS thing?
Jepp, it was called Stickoxydul in WWII...
During WWII the germans used the so called: T- Stoff and K-Stoff to propell the Me 163, the first rocket propelled jet engine.
T and K Stoff as known as H2O2 and sulphur acid are extremly dangerous to handle, each one sepeperated is easily to wash away with water- the combination of both a very dangerous acid which burns nearly through everything real quick.
80 % of all planes exploded with the maintaining crew...
I don't know, if it is a good idea to use H2O2?
Pure O² reacts with nearly everything- that means aluminum pistons will melt quickly.
Thats the reason they use NOS: to decrease the amount of O² and to have a cooling gas to avoid overheating.
By the the way, can you guess who has invented the NOS thing?
Jepp, it was called Stickoxydul in WWII...
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well nos does cool the charge.. but there still o2 in there that helps combustion.. thats why on a gas motor you have to inject extra fuel other wise the motor will lean out an burn up.. no prob. on a diesel.. only prob could be injecting to much.. you will put the flame out on a diesel...
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Biggest prob i would see is that due to the extra oxidation of the burn cycle is the extra heat that you will produce...example is oxy-acetylene....with just the acetylene you get a hot flame lots of soot and a low temp...add oxy to it and the burn goes to clean but the heat jumps tremendously.
I think this would also be the case of injecting peroxide int the combustion chambers of our diesels. Just food for thought.
I think this would also be the case of injecting peroxide int the combustion chambers of our diesels. Just food for thought.
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Additional food for thought is this...as Fire/Rescue we we always taught the if there were an accident involving the spill of and product containing peroxide or any derivitive of peroxide and any possibility of a fuel spill at the same instance we were to back off atleast 1/2 mile and keep all people away from the scene since fuel and peroxide will create a exothermic reaction on its own creating a possible explosion and fire.
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Additional food for thought is this...as Fire/Rescue we we always taught the if there were an accident involving the spill of and product containing peroxide or any derivitive of peroxide and any possibility of a fuel spill at the same instance we were to back off atleast 1/2 mile and keep all people away from the scene since fuel and peroxide will create a exothermic reaction on its own creating a possible explosion and fire.
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LOL...trust me its real fun! Saw an exothermic reaction one time with a 55 gallon drum of iron oxide and a little bit of water....fireworks during the 4th of July didnt hold a candle to it! pretty sure a little magnesium was involved also. damn drum burnt for almost 40 minutes...was way cool!
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Iron oxide and water won't do
Magnesium and water.... Well then you have an interesting makeup... If it was a magnesium oxide I'm pretty sure it will turn into Acetelyne gas and self ignite.
Thermite is still my favorite.... Looking to make some Methyl borate soon as well and see how that burns.
Oh and peroxide yields a 1:2 O2: h20 ratio nox is a better receipe IMO because it comes out of the bottle subzero and helps make the air dense. I would stick with Methanol/water and nos. Maybe a bit of propane but if you're going to do that why not just hook up a bottle of Oxygen and inject pure methanol and see what happens
Magnesium and water.... Well then you have an interesting makeup... If it was a magnesium oxide I'm pretty sure it will turn into Acetelyne gas and self ignite.
Thermite is still my favorite.... Looking to make some Methyl borate soon as well and see how that burns.
Oh and peroxide yields a 1:2 O2: h20 ratio nox is a better receipe IMO because it comes out of the bottle subzero and helps make the air dense. I would stick with Methanol/water and nos. Maybe a bit of propane but if you're going to do that why not just hook up a bottle of Oxygen and inject pure methanol and see what happens
Last edited by Dr. Evil; 10-25-2010 at 06:42 PM.