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my local fuel station still has a sticker for the old diesel. the 500 ppm lsd stuff. the funny thing is the sticker looks pretty new and the pump has been checked in december for accuracy. because of that i would think they would make ... JOIN NOW TO REMOVE TRACER

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Old 01-03-2010, 06:12 PM
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my local fuel station still has a sticker for the old diesel. the 500 ppm lsd stuff. the funny thing is the sticker looks pretty new and the pump has been checked in december for accuracy. because of that i would think they would make them get a new sticker unless it is actually lsd diesel. btw this isnt a rural fuel station and this is not off road diesel either. also it says the diesel contains 5-20 percent of biodiesel. nver gelled up on me so im thinking there using 5 percent

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That's odd...I can only guess that with the 5% mixture of biodiesel it must bring down the sulphur concentration to ULSD levels. AFAIK EVERYTHING has to be ULSD in N.America now (well Canada and the USA at least)

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its wierd
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The green sticker should say that the fuel contains 5-20% bio-diesel blend. In the US all diesel sold is required to be ULSD, even ag use fuel. The only exception to this would be heating oil or the marine use stuff, can't remember the real name for it.

The sticker should say under 500ppm if i remember it right.

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Around here it's like a green warning sticker.. saying Low sulphur fuel 15ppm

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thats the thing everywhere else it says ulsd 15 ppm. this fuel sation says lsd 500 ppm
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Ask them what the deal is.... I'm willing to bet it is just a left over sticker. All fuel made and sold in the U.S. is ULSD now....... The older standard (Higher sulfur content) isn't available any more.
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on the way to school this mornin, after stoppin at 2 different stations that were out of fuel, i pulled into a small station and the pump said 500PPM low sulfur diesel. and this sticker looked new too. im gonna stop again tomorrow and ask the guy, but he's a couple cents cheaper so i'll prolly be stoppin there from now on anyway

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Ask them what the deal is.... I'm willing to bet it is just a left over sticker. All fuel made and sold in the U.S. is ULSD now....... The older standard (Higher sulfur content) isn't available any more.
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LSD can still be bought and sold until later this year. BTW there are Flying J truck stops selling LSD for on road use and its legal for them to do so.

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You can buy LSD at allot of stations around here still! There is just a warning sticker that states "It is illegal to pump this LOW SULFUR diesel into any vehicle produced after 2007"

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Originally Posted by 06Dodge View Post
LSD can still be bought and sold until later this year. BTW there are Flying J truck stops selling LSD for on road use and its legal for them to do so.
That's crazy... I thought it was completely outlawed long ago...

I wonder if I can find any around... Curious to see if there's a difference in performance or smoothness.
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Originally Posted by K50 View Post
That's crazy... I thought it was completely outlawed long ago...

I wonder if I can find any around... Curious to see if there's a difference in performance or smoothness.
I havent noticed any large difference. The sulfur is just a lubricant, so you may run quieter?
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LSD can still be bought and sold until later this year. BTW there are Flying J truck stops selling LSD for on road use and its legal for them to do so.
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I was going to say you guys are wrong. After looking at epa.gov for a while (I hate their site by the way!) I think you are right. Sometime later this year it appears it will become mandatory to sell only ULSD. So, I guess it is understood that it isn't required just yet....

I got real tired of muddling my way around epa's site. This is the best I could come up with that would give us some guidelines for what the rules are:

epa.gov/compliance

(Good job on this guys! I like how they publish things as facts and law when they were really just time lines or suggestions. I am pretty sure what I was remembering was different posters and what not that I had seen. They made it seem like it was already law. If it was, then at least they have realized it would be too hard on small refineries to meet the dead lines and have 'adjusted' the law to allow them a little more time. It will be interesting seeing what kind of fuel is available across the nation. I will have to pay attention to that.)
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