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Has anyone used JP 8 (Nato number F34) fuel? Being deployed they used Jet Fuel instead Diesel. The trucks (equipped with a turbo) started to smoke black immedeatley. They called it Diesel de luxe black Smoke = unburned fuel = higher BTU included in JP8 ... JOIN NOW TO REMOVE TRACER

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Old 11-15-2009, 05:36 AM
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Has anyone used JP 8 (Nato number F34) fuel?

Being deployed they used Jet Fuel instead Diesel. The trucks (equipped with a turbo) started to smoke black immedeatley. They called it Diesel de luxe

black Smoke = unburned fuel = higher BTU included in JP8

If I turn up the boost - it should burn clean....

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Old 11-15-2009, 05:42 AM
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Let us know how it works out.

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Old 11-15-2009, 07:09 AM
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I've run JP8 in my truck(Diesel was 5/gal and we had gallons of it just sitting around)....I would put about 5 gal. of JP8 in a tank w/ reg diesel fuel w/ no issues...Same mileage, no extra smoke that I noticed

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Old 11-15-2009, 07:26 AM
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And pure JP8?
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You will loose fuel mileage, but if it's free I guess that doesn't matter.

AFAIK It's pretty much the same as #1 diesel fuel.. from Exxon:

Why shouldn’t I just use Diesel Fuel No. 1?
While Diesel Fuel No. 1 has an advantage in low temperature operability, there are some disadvantages, as well. The energy content of Diesel Fuel No. 1 is about 95% that of Diesel Fuel No. 2 and will provide a correspondingly lower fuel economy. Diesel Fuel No. 1 is also lower in viscosity and provides less lubrication for the fuel pump and fuel distributor.

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Old 11-15-2009, 08:37 AM
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I don't have a Common Rail- so lubricity isn't that prob. I just wonder about the BTU of Jet Propellant.
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:40 AM
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Old 11-15-2009, 05:20 PM
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just regular JP8...
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:34 AM
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I've seen guys run JP5, I wouldn't suggest running a complete tank of it. The most I'd go would be 50/50. Also don't get caught, because it will be Fraud, Waste and Abuse, and you can be NJPed for it.

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Old 11-16-2009, 12:22 PM
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IIRC, the lubricity of jet fuel is much lower!!
I heard it's a bad idea to use it because it's more of a solvent and will not lubricate like diesel does, thus leading to faster wear.

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Old 11-16-2009, 12:50 PM
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I think, I should stay away from it?
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Yeah, when I was in Iraq they had problems with the JP8 eatin up injection pumps on HMMWV's and duece and halfs. They wouldn't even put it in the newer MRAPs and mine clearing BUFFALOs. I think K50 is right is acts like a solvent and eats up the seals in everything invved with the fueling system.

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Old 11-19-2009, 01:40 AM
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you could always add a couple of quarts of motor oil (new or used) to increase the lubricity and BTU's of the jet fuel you are putting in your tank.

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My owner manual says no JP8 or Jet A. It has to much acetone in it.Eat fuel lines,lift pump.

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Old 12-21-2009, 11:03 PM
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My 01 dodge owners manual said it is safe to use jet a for a short emergency. It is some number 2 diesel mixed with kerosene.

Military jet fuels
Military organisations around the world use a different classification system of JP numbers. Some are almost identical to their civilian counterparts and differ only by the amounts of a few additives; Jet A-1 is similar to JP-8, Jet B is similar to JP-4. Other military fuels are highly specialized products and are developed for very specific applications. JP-5 fuel is fairly common, and was introduced to reduce the risk of fire on aircraft carriers (has a higher flash point - a minimum of 60 °C). Other fuels were specific to one type of aircraft. JP-6 was developed specifically for the XB-70 Valkyrie and JP-7 for the SR-71 Blackbird. Both these fuels were engineered to have a high flash point to better cope with the heat and stresses of high speed supersonic flight. One aircraft-specific jet fuel still in use by the United States Air Force is JPTS, which was developed in 1956 for the Lockheed U-2 spy plane.

Jet fuels are sometimes classified as kerosene or naphtha-type.Kerosene-type fuels include Jet A, Jet A1, JP-5 and JP-8. Naphtha-type jet fuels, sometimes referred to as "wide-cut" jet fuel, include Jet B and JP-4.

Jet fuel is clear to straw colored. The most common fuel is an unleaded/paraffin (kerosene) oil-based fuel classified as Jet A-1 (otherwise known as AVTUR), which is produced to an internationally standardized set of specifications..

The only other jet fuel that is commonly used in civilian turbine engine-powered aviation is called Jet B, a fuel in the naphtha-kerosene region that is used for its enhanced cold-weather performance. However, Jet B's lighter composition makes it more dangerous to handle, and it is thus restricted only to areas where its cold-weather characteristics are absolutely necessary.

Jet fuel is a mixture of a large number of different hydrocarbons, possibly as many as a thousand or more. The range of their sizes (molecular weights or carbon numbers) is restricted by the requirements for the product, for example, freezing point or smoke point. Kerosene-type jet fuel (including Jet A and Jet A-1) has a carbon number distribution between about 8 and 16 carbon numbers; wide-cut or naphtha-type jet fuel (including Jet B), between about 5 and 15 carbon numbers.

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