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I have a fleet of dump trucks and a few off road equipment and we have three 10,000 gallon above ground tanks. Our current fleet is made for ULSD. Before a fill up we add a bulk fuel additive to the tank. The 2 mechanics ... JOIN NOW TO REMOVE TRACER

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Old 11-09-2009, 08:25 PM
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I have a fleet of dump trucks and a few off road equipment and we have three 10,000 gallon above ground tanks. Our current fleet is made for ULSD. Before a fill up we add a bulk fuel additive to the tank.

The 2 mechanics I have had for years have always told me to buy a cheap brand name fuel and any non alcohol additive. We never had any fuel related issues. We never used “winter blend fuel” but use an ant gelling bulk additive during the winter witch is much cheaper for us.

This year one of our mechanics retired and we hired a fresh one right out of mechanics school. He’s all about trying to get us to switch to top brand fuel and what ever the additive of the month is. He’s also trying to get us to switch over to winter blend on our next fill up.

Were in the southwest VA and we don’t travel out of our area.

Is it worth changing what is not broken and has worked for years?
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:28 PM
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:30 PM
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i wouldnt change if it aint broke dont fix it -

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It’s cheaper to get bulk regular fuel and add an anti gelling agent then to get “winter diesel fuel”. -
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There you go then , Glad i could help -
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Old 11-09-2009, 09:18 PM
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If it aint broke then don't F with it!
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Scott I’ll pass that on to my new mechanic. We get a reimbursement form the college for hiring there students for there first 6 months of real world work (we have him for 2 more months). With the stuff that this guy has pulled out of his butt he’s all most not worth it. Every week he’s trying to get us to change something.

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Old 11-11-2009, 09:31 PM
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don't mess with a system that works well.

They do the same at the farm i work at occasionaly. It works well for them too because the company has a tank with the shaffers additive in the truck along with bio diesel and they mix it to what they want.

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Old 11-12-2009, 11:23 AM
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We can get ours splash mixed but we have to use there additive. There additive is some off brand stuff and you never know if they added the right amount. A lot of farmers stopped getting there additives mixed in and buy there own. I would rather buy my additives in 55 gallon drums. We pump in how much we want and then run a mix / filter cycle on the tank. When you’re buying a few dozen 55 gallon drums form an oil supplier a few drums of additives don’t cost much.

I look at the additives as an insurance policy. We use about half of the additive that it calls for and a few times a year get it closer to full strength. Having that extra detergent in the fuel goes a long way long term if you chart out your MPG.

We use anti gel as needed by the weather. Most of the time we only treat 2 tanks with anti gel and switch back and forth on what tank were using depending on the temps. -
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:55 AM
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I delivered bulk fuel for a few years and I think its best you do yer own additives that way you know whats in there and how much...........I can say that the bulk delivery guy doesnt always have the right amount of additive OR he doesnt take the time to do the additive..........been there done that.............trust yer 30 year mechanic..........experience goes a long ways in this world -

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I think whatever school he went to pumped him full of propaganda and advertising for whatever companies were sponsoring his program. Happens all the time!

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I think whatever school he went to pumped him full of propaganda and advertising for whatever companies were sponsoring his program. Happens all the time!

Stick with what you're doing now!!! Nothing else can be better than not having problems.
We get 2 guys from the school every 6 months on an internship program. Most of the ones we get are laid back and end up in the daily grind after a few weeks.

This is the first time that I have gotten someone from the school that was that hard core on what product names to use. In seven weeks this guy’s internship runs out and he’s not on our “lets hire this guy” list.

The second guy we have this cycle jumped right into the swing of things. I would like to hire this guy but he asked for a letter of recommendation a few weeks ago and looks like he’s got a few offers. This guy even came to me and asked for help with getting his CDL and passed on the second road test. He has a job offer on the table with us if he wants it. -
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:20 PM
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nab a good youngun and have the old guy train him up..................the future is there like it or not.

Hey just FYI. when I was haulin fuel we used to go to a refinery and get railroad diesel for 28 cents a gallon and blend it in with our tanks of 120,000 gals, the loads were 10,000 gals, I was haulin a train (a trailer and a pup) we used to go thru aprox 70-100,000 gals a day at this truck stop..........One time I hauled 12 k loads (way over weight) for 18 loads in a row and never got the level above 30k......all that in 14 hours -
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