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will second gen 12 valve injectors work in an intercooled first gen?... JOIN NOW TO REMOVE TRACER

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Old 11-20-2009, 09:36 PM
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will second gen 12 valve injectors work in an intercooled first gen?

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Old 11-20-2009, 10:31 PM
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No. Couple reasons why. First the injector line nut is teh wrong thread, 2nd the pop pressure is off and finally the spray pattern is not perfect. You can put 2nd gen nozzles on 1st gen bodies and reset the pop pressure to work with teh VE but you still have a funny spray pattern.

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Old 11-20-2009, 10:35 PM
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:56 PM
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nope they sure wont sorry bro

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Old 11-21-2009, 12:08 AM
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The spray pattern on the '91-98 intercooled 12v engines are the same 145°...

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Old 11-24-2009, 06:56 AM
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so putting the nozzles on the bodies would work, but what would be the downfall to the different spray pattern, if there is a difference. would the truck run ok?
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Old 11-24-2009, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CumminsPowerOrNoPower View Post
but what would be the downfall to the different spray pattern, if there is a difference.
I didn't know there was a debate.
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:55 PM
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The spray pattern on the '91-98 intercooled 12v engines are the same 145°...
I was under the impression that the spray angles were different on the 94 up trucks. I read that everywhere.

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Old 11-24-2009, 09:10 PM
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I thought they were also Richie, Getting mixed storys from a few different respectable injector guys.
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Old 11-25-2009, 01:12 AM
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The DSLA number designates the spray angle:

'89-91 DSLA155 P104 4x0.014"
'91-93 DSLA145 P265 6x0.010"
'94-98 DSLA145 P464 5x0.009"
'96-98 DSLA145 P477 5x0.010"

This should clear up the confusion.

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Old 11-27-2009, 11:31 AM
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How about 89-90 injectors?
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Old 11-29-2009, 01:51 PM
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Check the edit on post #10.
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Old 11-29-2009, 02:28 PM
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Ok so its only the non-I/Ced injectors that are different. Good to know. Thanks for clearing that up Weston!
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:38 PM
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I think the confusion is when someone uses a stock marine tip ( 370's and 435's ). Those are the ones with a different angle due to a industrial p pump having a different piston bowl. Weston, are we getting warmer??
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:52 PM
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The 435 is not a Marine nozzle, it is just a slang term given to the hone size 5x0.014". I have only read where the 1st Gen nozzles were 4x0.012" and 6x0.009", however that is not the case.
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