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5.9L Rotary Bombs (Aftermarket) Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with Rotary Injection Pumps Related To Performance And Longevity

So far the big HP injectors are 6x16's for a single turbo and 6x18's for twins. Thats so far...... JOIN NOW TO REMOVE TRACER

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Old 09-19-2009, 05:09 PM
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So far the big HP injectors are 6x16's for a single turbo and 6x18's for twins. Thats so far...

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Old 09-26-2009, 12:00 AM
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why no 5 hole big power then..i dont under stand. a bunch of guys making big power on 6 hole. but some say there is no way 5 hole is better... i just dont get it.

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Old 10-04-2009, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokem View Post
I believe I have.
Any more thought's on this I'm looking to get a set of new injectors. PM if you need to. I'm going to buy a new set in the next couple of weeks. I'm looking for something bigger than the honed out 5x12's I'm running now.

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bump, waiting to see smokems suggestions for 1st gen injectors
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Old 11-21-2009, 04:18 PM
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bump, waiting to see smokems suggestions for 1st gen injectors
Me too!
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Old 11-21-2009, 08:58 PM
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i called southern diesel extreme who are the guys that sell his injectors and they reccomended the 5x14 injectors so thats what i ordered. waitin on them as we speak

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Old 11-21-2009, 11:14 PM
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Let me know what you think! I'll be sending my 6x16's to them this winter to get worked over!
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Old 11-22-2009, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RSWORDS View Post
Let me know what you think! I'll be sending my 6x16's to them this winter to get worked over!
What do they need?

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Old 11-22-2009, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RSWORDS View Post
Let me know what you think! I'll be sending my 6x16's to them this winter to get worked over!
will do hopefully i can get them soon so i can get my truck back runnin again. now just to figure out what budget turbo would suit my app well
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Richie O View Post
What do they need?
I'm not very happy with them (They are not his, they came from another company) . He is going to run through them and fine tune if you will.
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so from what i've gathered from most of you is 6x0.16 are the way to go i all ready have 5x0.14 and i want to go bigger soon. i've seen many articles about guys with high powered 1st gens and they all seem to be running 6x0.16s or 6x.018s, so why should 5 hole injectors be they way to go? don't take me in the wrong way but so far no one has really given a good reason as to why 5 hole injectors are better then 6 hole or vice versa. i don't want to spend another $650 on injectors to want to get bigger again.

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buy the way does any one know of a shop that will turn my stockers into 6x0.18s?? and how much would it be??

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Old 11-22-2009, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by seandonato73 View Post
so why should 5 hole injectors be they way to go? don't take me in the wrong way but so far no one has really given a good reason as to why 5 hole injectors are better then 6 hole or vice versa.
Look at it this way, Bosch quit using the 6-hole design in '94, even though the angle of the jet did not change. There are a few reasons, the technical term is known as low lift needle deviation. Basically, when the valve opens the needle is side-loaded which causes 3 holes to fire, and 3 holes do not. Also, the 5-hole design suits the offset incline pattern found on the 12v injector/combination. Hole size does not seem to be as important on the VE equipped engines, I believe soley due to lack of fuel quantity.

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so i went from 387rpw with the ole 1990 9mm stock injectors to 297rwp with the 97 head and stock 93 I/C injectors whats good to put me back up to where i was?

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Old 11-23-2009, 12:27 PM
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You went from a 4x0.012" 155° to a 6x0.009" 145°, do you still have the non I/C injectors?
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Old 11-24-2009, 12:31 AM
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yes why?

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4x0.012" 155° to a 6x0.009" 145°
the 10* difference is gonna through the spray off how much will this hurt?

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4x0.012" 155° to a 6x0.009" 145°
the 4 in 4X0.012 stands for how many holes in the nozzle? and the 0.012 is the flow per injection
and from .012 to .009 i will loose 90 rwp? or is this from something else? pump was put on a bench and tested all good i popped all the injectors checked the pattern all good whats the pop psi supposed to be?

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