i inherited a 98 dodge 3500 dually and i wanted to run bully dog triple dog on it...but a friend of mine says its not a good idea to run heavy duty programmers on stock injectors...do i need to upgrade my injectors?...ne suggestions for more power would be nice -

First of all - WELCOME to the site. Lots of great info and guys here.

Second, is this a 12Valve or a 24Valve? In 98 there were two different engines.

Third, SSSSLLLLOOOWWW down a bit....do you understand the importance of guages? You dont mention guages or even the use of the outlook monitor. If you dont know much about diesels - heres the short and sweet on a 24V - using a programmer changes the fuel map and adds more fuel. Therefore, its necessary to monitor the exhaust gas temperatures with a pyrometer. This is necessary because the added fuel creates much more heat and if you dont have a pyrometer, you run the risk of melting pistons. You will also want a boost guage to monitor turbo performance and a fuel pressure guage to monitor the health of your lift pump. This is the absolute minumum that you will need.

Also, if you have a 24V you should also be looking at upgrading the lift pump. -

Dr. Evil's Sig:

98 12V quad cab 4X4 AND 2001 24V quad cab 4X4

its the 24 valve and sorry i left out i do want the outlook monitor with it...im going to get a BHAF and stacks too -

Uh, ok...so you have an idea about what is involved.

Im not sure how aggreesive the bullydog box is, but I think you will be just fine with your stock injectors (for now anyway). I think you are much better off getting a fuel system upgrade and mechanical fuel pressure guage. -

any suggestions for brands or anything? -

brands of what? -

gauges, autometer, isspro, diprocal there all good
bhaf, you can get them amost anywhere if you need a list of part numbers let me know
stacks, talk to grand rock
last but not least theres better programmers out there then the bully dog, like a smarty -

DBogo's Sig:

1995 Ram 2500 12v NV4500 <acronym title="Four Wheel Drive"><acronym title="Four Wheel Drive">4x4</acronym></acronym> regular cab
1990 VW Jetta 1.6 5spd 266k and still going strong
1983 Mercedes Benz 240d 4spd 110k original miles FOR SALE
Thanks to Upstate Diesel Performance

Best to Prepare for the bombs , Is it an automatic?

And Get a Fuel Pressure Gauge ASAP Cause our Stock Fuel Pumps Suck and it will die and take your Injection Pump with it ,

Once you have a good Platform the Skys the limit , But if you spend all your Money on Bombs then Something happens / Breaks because of last of preparation , Then you have a kick ass truck thats a lawn ordiment , Mines been like that a few times its not good

DM -

DieselMinded's Sig:

Youll want a FP guage for sure. Seriously, it can save you a thousand+ bucks. I recommend Isspro (they match the stock guages the best), or DiPricol.

Get a 0-30 psi guage like this one:

http://www.dieselmanor.com/isspro/r5..._fuelpress.asp - If you go with Isspro make sure you get the EV (enhanced visibility) series guages.

or this one:

http://www.dieselmanor.com/dipricol/c307425opx_fuel.asp

I also like the Stewart Warner Performance line:


http://www.sw-performance.com/index....tails&p=114382 -

unless I'm mistaken the only bully dog for the 24v is the torque dog, the triple is only for the gen 3's -

cashwheel's Sig:

'04 Dodge CTD Triple Nickel 3500 4x4 DRW NV5600 QC Laramie - 62/65/12, Bully Dog tuned by CT Performance, Quad boost fooler, Opie's Mitusa, Hamilton Cams 110# springs, Speedhut bst, egt, rp, fp gauges,DPP Cool hose, Vulcan big line, Banks Techincooler, Diesel Dawgs IC boots, 19.5's, flex-a-lite fan kit, 3.5 strait pipe, BD intake, some recon led's

Glad to see ya join up. Theres a lot of good info hidden in these threads, take some time and read through them. It will save you a ton of money by doing it now instead of later.

To answer the original question, you can run any Chip with your stock injectors, you just won't get the full affect of it. But as mentioned before, before you start crankin the HP, fix the things that are gonna be broke by doing it. Before anything else is done you need the Fuel Pressure Guage and an aftermarket high flow lift pump and larger fuel lines. The lift pump and larger fuel lines are what it's gonna take to keep enough fuel flowing to supply that chip without overheating the Injector pump. The stock system won't do it. If you have an automatic, you will also need to start thinking about the upgrade to it. As a stock unit it will not handle the full affect of even a mild chip for very long. If it is the NV4500 5 speed tranny, well at some point you will also need to upgrade it but it will hold better then the auto.

Better fuel supply and Fuel pressure guage, first things though. -

Uncle Bubba's Sig:

99 Quad Cab, 4wd, Drag Comp W/Pump Wire & Boost Elbow installed, K&N Air Canon, MBRP exhaust, Belt Drive Lift Pump and bottom Bulkhead feed from the tank, Isspro EV Pyrometer, Boost Gauge, Fuel Pressure Gauge, DT Pro Fab Trac Bar, South Bend 13-1.25 Con O Clutch, Ranch Hand Bumper, Borgeson Steering Shaft, Black Silicone Boots, 2" Lift Soft Ride Front Coils, Solenoid High Idle Kit, Bilstein 5100 HD Shocks, Rickson 19.5 Wheels w/Hancoock Rubber, HD Maxx Link Sway Bar Links, Superlift dual front stabilizer, EGR Brakes Front and Back, RV275 Injector's, Blue Chip VP44, Prodigy brake controller, B&W Gooseneck hitch and more I can't remember right now. Not to mention more to come I'm sure.
374.2/846.7 at 30psi

is this an auto or manual?? -

bow2no1's Sig:

its an auto...i meant what is the best brand for fuel systems...what chip works best with the 98 24v trucks? and what is the best way to build up my stock auto tranny? i come from a part of texas where diesels are real popular and off road trucks r popular but people tend to follow fads without knowing wut they're doing...and i want to understand my truck...so pretty much everyone runs banks and edge...so i really only know the basics and what goes in the pages of the diesel magazines...so any information ya'll can give is appreciated... -

Get the biggest baddest Torque Converter And put a TFOD TransGo Shift Kit in it Adjust the bands and consider the tranny done , I would go for a TST box you can always stack to it later , And Get a FASS Fuel System , Then Get some 100HP Sticks then look at a superB charger ........ -

woah woah woah wut r sticks and by charger u mean turbo charger right? -