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Hey anybody out there stacking a smarty on a timing only box, if so what are yall seeing performance wise, worth it? Or should i just go with a bigger chip?... JOIN NOW TO REMOVE TRACER

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Old 11-27-2009, 01:09 AM
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Hey anybody out there stacking a smarty on a timing only box, if so what are yall seeing performance wise, worth it? Or should i just go with a bigger chip?

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Old 11-27-2009, 04:35 PM
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I tried it with my buddies smarty and my adrenaline on my truck. It was a very very small difference. but i did notice it...barely.

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Old 11-27-2009, 08:37 PM
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Depends on what your stacking the Smarty with.

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Old 11-28-2009, 06:37 AM
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a little sticky i did on another forum Chip Stacking?? Look Here!! - Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum

the smarty dose timing its self stacking it with just a timing box is pointless imo. it would be stacked with a fuel/timing box (on fuel only setting) or a fuel box (on timing or fuel/timing settings)

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Old 11-28-2009, 02:42 PM
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stack a smarty with a TST PM# COMP box and youll feel it in your pants. the TST PM3 COMP is nothing but fueling and a very hot box, 160 hp gain with the pm3 comp alone

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Old 11-28-2009, 04:08 PM
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Most guys have seen a loss in HP when anything is stacked with the Smarty.
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Old 11-28-2009, 05:43 PM
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you wont see a big gain (or even a loss) on the dyno. but like dukeboy said, you will feel it in your pants.
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:05 PM
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We have seen 20-30hp lost when stacking a Smarty on a Comp.

This was on a Dyno.
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Old 11-28-2009, 09:13 PM
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is that the tst comp or edge comp?
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:10 PM
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Edge Comp and Edge Drag Comp.
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Old 11-29-2009, 02:33 AM
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hua... i was jw.

i agree, the smarty is good for the track, and butt dyno. i have heard of of minimal power gain, and power loss. its like the smarty chokes the turbo out on the bottom end.
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Old 11-29-2009, 01:39 PM
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I think the VP just runs out of fuel.
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Old 11-29-2009, 03:13 PM
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makes since, the smarty just falls on its face so hard after 2700rpm it hurts hp. also explanes why guys who run theirs on lower power levels get better results.
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Old 12-02-2009, 11:36 PM
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I think iv got my answer but if it helps what im tryin to do is keep my chip i have now (the VanAakin) because i like it and iv never had a problem with it but its not ajustable and just not enough power
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Yup. I lost ~50hp on the dyno when I added the Smarty to my TST box.

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Most guys have seen a loss in HP when anything is stacked with the Smarty.
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