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5.9L 24V Bombs (Aftermarket) Discussion of 24 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with VP44 Injection Pumps Related To Performance And Longevity

okay, a buddy of mine bought the adrenaline with pulse and then shortly afterwards blew a tranny, so since his truck was sitting, we decided to do some real life testing between it and my juice using my truck as the platform. heres what weve ... JOIN NOW TO REMOVE TRACER

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Old 03-14-2009, 10:15 AM
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okay, a buddy of mine bought the adrenaline with pulse and then shortly afterwards blew a tranny, so since his truck was sitting, we decided to do some real life testing between it and my juice using my truck as the platform. heres what weve have so far. Testing was done same day, yesterday, friday the 13th. all times are done with a stop watch. dynos were done at TST indoor mustang dyno. will post the charts as soon as i figure out where a scanner is. 1/4 mil runs were done on track and street runs are not accurate, we tried each programer 3 runs and spun the tires each time. same driver, all tests.

my trucks setup

150 hp over stock injectors, fass 150 gph pump, modified hx25 and a 4in straight piped exhaust, southbend 3250 dual disc clutch. and a custum tuned ECM(90 hp over stock using timing only)

basic level, no programer

1/4 mile run on track-16.26
1/4 mil run on street-17.01
0-60 run- 12.34
dyno results- 309.4 hp @ 2230 rpm and 710.9 ft lbs @ 1870 rpms

Quadzilla Adrenaline with pulse, Comp 3000 tune

1/4 mile run on track- 14.71
1/4 mile run on street- 16.45(spun tires and wouldnt hook up any time we tried)
0-60- 10.98
dyno results- 436.4 hp @ 2030 rpm and 986.6 ft lbs @ 1875 rpm
Stand alone guage readings
max boost-39 psi
max EGT- 1430 degrees
fuel pressue @ WOT- 14 psi


Juice with attitude, level 5x5

1/4 mile run on track- 14.86
1/4 mile run on street- 15.78(spun tires and wouldnt hook up either)
0-60- 10.03
dyno results- 468.7 hp @ 2170 rpm and 1065.2 ft lbs @ 1825 rpm
Stand alone guage readings
max boost-42 psi
max EGT- 1450 degrees
fuel pressue @ WOT- 15 psi


these results are not scientific and keep in mind what is resulted on my truck maybe different on someone elses. These are simply the numbers i got from mine. after looking the numbers

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Old 03-14-2009, 10:32 AM
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why do you have a hx 25 on your truck. good job on the testing man. were them 4wheel boosed launches on the track?

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Old 03-14-2009, 11:21 AM
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good test data here for sure

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I imagine you have an hx35 right? Looks like the juice makes more power with added mods. gained almost 160hp on juice and 127hp on the adrenaline. Would be interesting to see dyno numbers on a stock truck to see how they differ. But nice test. and having to shift it makes the times all that much more impressing.

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hey thanks for throwing this out there, could be usefull in the future for me.

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What tune were you running on the Adrenaline?

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Old 03-14-2009, 09:29 PM
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Quadzilla Adrenaline with pulse, Comp 3000 tune
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Old 03-14-2009, 10:18 PM
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You adjust any of the settings on the Pulse?
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why were the hp and torque readings not taken at the same RPM range? or close to.

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Old 03-15-2009, 06:51 PM
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yes, i meant hx 35, it was a typo . the RPMs listed are where each programer hit its peak hp and torque, each run was made from 800 to redline on each program in 4th gear, starting speed was 38 mph each time, or close too

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I imagine you have an hx35 right? Looks like the juice makes more power with added mods. gained almost 160hp on juice and 127hp on the adrenaline. Would be interesting to see dyno numbers on a stock truck to see how they differ. But nice test. and having to shift it makes the times all that much more impressing.
im thinking that maybe my ECM tune, which is a timing only tune may have affected the adrenaline. i was disappointed in the adrenaline on the dyno, i figured it would have helped me break 500 which was my ultimate goal in this test. ive been contemplating switching to the ADR but after comparing them, im staying with my edge. my truck just didnt seem to like the adrenaline.

and yes luke we did play with it a little and that was the best we could get.

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so the dyno tests where not on a dyno then? just on the programmers results? how accurate r they?
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Dang you only hit 1450 on your EGT's with Adrenaline, 150hp injectors on a stock HX35? Hmm I can hit that with stock injectors with my Adrenaline
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Something doesn't seem right. The adrenaline should fuel hard enough that there is noway that hx is gonna keep it that cool.

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Something doesn't seem right. The adrenaline should fuel hard enough that there is noway that hx is gonna keep it that cool.
Not with 150hp injectors. Like I said I can hit 1500 and I was only running ADR2000.


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