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5.9L 12V Performance Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with P7100 Injection Pumps Related to Performance and Longevity

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Old 03-24-2010, 08:56 PM
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I have a 98 12 valve and i want to take out the fule plate. What are the pros & cons?

ELKSLAYER's Sig:1998 dodge 12 valve 4x4 3/4t ext. cab laramie Lumpdog trans.104 FUEL PLATE,16* TIMMING.DYNO 291.6 HP 678.2 TORK . Now no plate, 4000 GSK , 4''STRAIT PIPE to 5'' twin stacks, KDP,2 1/2" LEVELING KIT, GLOW SHIFT GAGES.35" TIRES,big honkin air filter and more.
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:57 PM
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pros: power, looking awesome, smoke, noise
cons: looking like a douche, smoke, noise, getting pulled over

FastCR's Sig:1995 Chevy K2500 '95 12 Valve, NV4500, D60, 215s, No fuel plate, star wheel in, WG shut, Southbend, stacks, 17* timing(Dyno'd 280.2hp/920.7ft lbs)
'02 VW Jetta TDI 11mm IP, 17/22 Hybrid, Bosio Race 520s, ARP Studs, Southbend, 14lb SMF, EGR Delete, 3" Straight Pipe, Kerma Tune, ID Parts Lower IC tube, Projector Refrofits(Dyno'd 203hp)
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:18 PM
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pros:power, smoke.
cons: frying your clutch or tranny, unless your easy on it or have an aftermarket one
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:30 PM
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pros: closer to full rack travel, more fuel,
cons:egts more smoke..

i personally dont like it that well i did it in mine and i think im going to go back to a 0 plate.

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Old 03-26-2010, 12:09 AM
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i like mine the best with out fuel plate or afc.... thats tuning on demand
but lots of smoke and poor fuel milage, and no tranny

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Old 03-26-2010, 12:19 AM
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you get pulled over for smoke?

how would you look like a douche????

noise????? WTF
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Old 03-26-2010, 10:19 AM
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a o plate and no plate are the same.

pros: would be a big increase in power. i went from 150hp to 280 hp by changing from a stock plate in stock position to a 0 plate. no other pro realy imo

cons: excess smoke, high egts, easy to fry a stock clutch/torque converter, and decrease in fuel mileage, unless ya keep your foot out of it

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Old 03-26-2010, 10:44 AM
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Unless you have the means to push that much fuel, running plateless could potentially hurt you. Having a rack stop in the right place could be more beneficial then having full rack travel where you are basically overfueling and putting the fire out.

With a 0 plate slid a little forward from stock, I'm making 22 more hp than I was with out the plate.

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Old 03-26-2010, 04:37 PM
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i have run a 100plate ff and no plate and it seems the same on the butt dyno to me.

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Old 03-27-2010, 11:10 AM
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you aint guna notice a difference between 100 ff and no plate
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