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Hey everybody. Maybe one of you can help. I have a 1995 Ram 2500 4X4, Auto, 12V. I just finished a BIG project on my ride. I just changed the timing from 11 to 15. I had the front cover off and re-checked the timing ... JOIN NOW TO REMOVE TRACER

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Old 11-27-2009, 09:04 PM
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Hey everybody. Maybe one of you can help. I have a 1995 Ram 2500 4X4, Auto, 12V. I just finished a BIG project on my ride. I just changed the timing from 11 to 15. I had the front cover off and re-checked the timing 3 times before reassembling. I replaced my #6 TST plate with a #5 plate and put 3GSK kit in while I had the fuel plate out. Now it idle's great and starts quickly. But it smokes badly and when I bring it up off idle it misses and smokes even worse!! Is it possible that I missed something when I installed the Fuel Plate???? ANY IDEAS!!!!
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Old 11-27-2009, 09:26 PM
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Hate to say it but sounds like timing slipped..You get the shaft super clean and nut torqued to spec?

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Old 11-27-2009, 09:37 PM
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Old 11-27-2009, 09:38 PM
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Yep, Cleaned it with brake clean and put it together dry. I had the front cover off to do my KDP kit. So everything was right there ?? And I torqued it to 165 ft/lbs is what the timing tool instructions. It starts quickly and idles smoothly? Does slipped timing cause a miss?? Smells and smokes like its over fueling. Think I could have missed something when installing my fuel plate???
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Old 11-27-2009, 09:42 PM
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sounds like timing to me

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Old 11-27-2009, 09:46 PM
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Timing. be on the safe side and re-check it. i know its a PITA but you can damage things if it gets real bad. sorry for the bad news fella.
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Old 11-27-2009, 09:52 PM
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Good thing we got a 4 day weekend!! I'll recheck it tomorrow and it is a PITA. Will slipped timing cause it to overfuel?? It was overfueling soo bad that the exhaust manifold gaskets were seeping fuel but only 2 & 3??? and I can't believe the smoke!! Is this comon for slipped timing?? Could I have gotten something wrong when I replaced the fuel plate? or Putting on the AFC housing??
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Old 11-27-2009, 09:58 PM
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Not saying you cant but it doesnt sound like a problem with the plate. usually problems consist of the foot hanging or actuall heard of them getting stuck. If you got fuel out of your manifold gaskts i would say holy crap.. sure sounds like timimg fella. hopefully someone else chims in too
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Will have to check it tomorrow a.m. Appreciate the info. Does 165 ft/lbs sound right on the fuel pump gear nut after timing??
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Old 11-27-2009, 10:14 PM
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I believe so, im not sure tho. it sounds about close. hopefully someone will chime in. mise well make sure what the tq spec is. i dont remember and i dont have my manual here at the house.
do a search for the spec. i know its on here

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Old 11-28-2009, 02:16 AM
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Are you SURE you had the motor at TDC when you began to set the timing?.

A truck with timing that has been retarded will start very easy.

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Update??
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Old 11-28-2009, 09:35 PM
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Just a thought maybe some of your injectors are stuck open would explain the smoke.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:15 AM
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Hey everybody, just thought that I would tell you all that indeed the timing was off!!! It was totally my fault!! First time I've timed one and I was soo hung up on getting the timing purfect that I didn't count the revolutions on the micrometer. Missed it by 1 revolution
It was off by .100 and set at .148 instead of .248. Thanks for all your help!!!!!!
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Old 11-30-2009, 07:03 PM
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glad you got er figured out!
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